You bring up an interesting point. The only Favorites I can think of at the moment that are still with us: Wynton Marsalis and Dee Dee Bridgewater.
My latest CDs and the year the artist died:
Dizzy Gillespie -- Dizzy's Big 4 1993
Donald Byrd -- The Cat Walk 2013
Lee Morgan -- Take Twelve 1972
Dexter Gordon -- One Flight Up 1990
Miles Davis -- Milestones 1991
Charles Mingus -- Mingus in Europe 1991
Amazing!
Billy Bang was a viet vet. I think he mad a couple of CDs with Nam in the title.
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Rok, I didn't even know Billy Bang was dead. That makes me wonder how many other jazz musicians who have contributed so much to this music are no longer with us, that I think are still around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ZzX-8wBZ8This is from [Vietnam: Reflections] 2005, I'll have to get that. Enjoy the music. |
Since you put me in an Iberian mood, I had to pull out:
Carmen - Fantasie
Anne-Sophie Mutter
Wiener - Levine
How can one person have so much talent and beauty. Doesn't that violate some natural law?
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O-10:
The Jesse Cook in Havana clip is great stuff. I like it better with my eyes open. (the senorita) :) I also listened to a few more of the selections shown on the youtube page.
The music reminds me of what got me interested in music in a serious way.
That Lp was by the 101 strings entitled 'The Soul Of Spain'. I wore out so many LPs playing that music. Finally I got it on CD, and the music sounds horrible. The violins sound as if they are made of metal.
'Malaguena' and 'Granada' were the two numbers that 'grabbed' me initially, but I love them all now.
I will have to find a similar CD with good sonics and the same music.
When it comes to the guitar and guitar music, Spain rules!! Thanks for the link.
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Rok, Salome is hot and smoking in every and any use of the words, I ordered the CD.
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O-10,
I don't watch or listen to youtube that much, because it's easy to confuse the total visual / audio experience with just the music. If I buy the CD, there will be no pictures of beautiful women and scenery. Then, often times, the music cannot stand on it's on.
Audio only, keeps everything in focus. Now, I did watch a Cab Calloway clip with the Nicholas Brothers today.
That is youtube at it's best. Historic stuff. I found it while looking at the Chico Freeman thingy.
The Brazil thingy was good, but I would not buy it on CD.
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Acman3, that George Russel cut is amazing! I can't believe that slipped through the cracks for me. What a fantastic and inventive arrangement from one of the most interesting minds in jazz. A lesson in the power of simplicity when you make the right note choices. Truly one of the best things I have heard in a while. Thank you for sharing. Sheila Jordan sounds sublime in "Am I Blue! |
The woman is a FOX!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7YsE-wQn9c
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Mel Torme tune was good. Who were the backup singers? He is not my cup of tea, but I did like 'coming home'.
Caravan was good also. Their voices just sounded a little too 'light' for the tune. I like them better in the link below. Miss Janice has not lost anything over the years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCytxcavaEA
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If JATP did ruin Jazz, it was because it brought in Norman Granz.
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In a music sense, POP does not mean popular. As pertains to music, it's the name of a genre of music. All music is POPULAR to some extent.
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Second part of my post above is a straw argument. Sorry!
Is fusion Jazz? Sometimes.
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I thought Jazz was once PoP music; what goes around comes around?
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I wonder if Geronimo and Sitting Bull ever knew they were actually Norwegian!!
Fusion: POPULAR music combining different styles (as jazz and rock) ---- From Merriam-Webster.
Since fusion is POP music, it has no place on a Jazz forum. Just saying.
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Jazz Alert!
Most of Freddie Hubbard's best stuff is avalible on Amazon in the 8 - 10 dollar range. Just in case you have missed some of his best. CTI and Blue Note Labels.
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******my suggestion of..
"Blue Bacharach - A Cooler Shaker" is NOT in the same category of your three Dionne CDs.
I re-address this just so that other readers here do not assume that is the case.**********
I agree. I was, in my typically clumsy way, trying to say, that I was over familiar with the tunes on the CD. I did not mean to infer any other similarity.
This is Jazz and Dionne is pop. Very good pop.
Thanks for your post.
I did put the CD in my waiting to buy list on amazon.
Lou Rawls, Nancy Wilson, and Blue Note!! That should be a slam dunk!
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Rok,
I do agree with you most of times. Although, my suggestion of..
"Blue Bacharach - A Cooler Shaker" is NOT in the same category of your three Dionne CDs.
I re-address this just so that other readers here do not assume that is the case. It does have three vocal cuts, two of Nancy Wilson, one of Lou Rawls, otherwise all instrumentals of Jazz and Jazz/Blues artists. @ Blue Note records.
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Rok, as usual, you're right, but at the same time your wrong. Although she's Lapland, the music is still Native American, and she identifies with Native Americans because she's one of the indigenous people of Norway, and Native Americans are the indigenous people of this country. They have similar cultures.
Git in the Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Cochise groove and shut up.
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She is neither native Amerrican or even American. Google says she is from Norway. Lapland?? Nice Music anyway.
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Today's Recommendations:
Clark Terry -- Yes, The Blues
with / Cleanhead Vinson (on alto and vocals) and others
Nothing to figure out here. Just pros playing well. Is it Bop, Blues or R&B? Well it depends on which part of which tune you are listening to at the time.
Ella can sound like an instrument, and on this set, Terry's trumpet sounds like a vocalist.
Cleanhead is not a bad sax player either. They both do one vocal number each. Let's hope Terry sticks with trumpet!
Not essential, but nice to have.
Miles Davis -- '58 Sessions
featuring 'Stella By Starlight'
with/ Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb.
Two different sets on one CD. First 4 tunes in the studio, the last three live at a hotel in NYC.
Great tune selection.
I like the overall ambience of the live numbers. it was at a party given by Columbia to celebrate the state of Jazz at the label. Seems as if Cannonball and Coltrane were engaged in a cutting session on 'Straight, No Chaser'.
The solos were awesome on all tunes. So much horn play, Evans seems to have gotten lost. One of his solos sounded as if he was a few rooms down the hall. Probably due to the miking at the live event.
Essential? It depends on how many CDs you have with Miles, Coltrane, Cannonball, Chambers, Evans and Cobb all playing in the same group. If you have a bunch, you might be able to skip this one. if not, Git it!.
The Live vs studio thingy is an irritant. Slight tape hiss.
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Frogman, I got my order in for Johnny Griffin. Your opinion of Lorez is an indication of just how "subjective" female vocalists are. While I'm not impressed by Carmen Lundy, she seems interesting as a person, and I'm investigating her art and biography.
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Lorez Alexandria sounds good, but doesn't kill me. A little "pitchy", and she and the rhythm section aren't always locked in. I like her tone; nice voice quality. Here's a great "jazz singer we never heard of". Amazing talent; she writes most her own material AND writes the string and horn arrangements. Fantastic rhythm section on this record. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U21lJqJAxYs |
Loved the Gene Ammons cuts. What a distinctive tenor sound: dark, fat, and with just the right amount of nasal edge; and man could he ever play in the pocket! Amazing time feel. Thanks, I have not pulled out any of my Jug records in a while. Since we are on the subject of tenor players, here's two more of my favorites from that era. Johnny Griffin kills on this record. And checkout Ben Riley on drums; amazing! Actually, great rhythm section. http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=relmfu&v=NB4lJyFxDPs |
Acman3, if I had been there, I would have been overwhelmed as well. I've got several discs of Luc Ponty when he was in that bag, after this, I'll have to get that.
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You are right about Ammons. I have 'Boss Tenor' and 'Boss Tenors', which is Ammons with Sonny Stitt. The one with BEAN looks interesting. I hope it's still aval.
I don't have the SA8004. I have the SA8001 which does not have USB. How Is the USB involved in HD downloads? I do copy CD to USB memory stick for my car.
I was so concerned about CD players disappearing from newer Cars, but I now like the USB stick even better. I copy using the highest (cd) quality.
Your choice of 'alternate' music sounded 'nice'. Won't bother anyone. :)
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Rok, I assume you're using the USB input on your Marantz SA8004? |
*******You lost me with "The Wolf Man", that's the kind of blues I can live without********
That kind of blues is called 'The Blues' :)
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Rok, my grandmother liked "Chopin", I heard her say it when I was very young. It was ages before I discovered "Chopin" and "Sho pan" were the same person. I liked him until he got a little too busy for me.
I saw Aretha live in Detroit, you can't go wrong with Aretha; just the sound of her voice floods me with memories of good times.
You lost me with "The Wolf Man", that's the kind of blues I can live without. One out of three ain't bad, when you consider that it was outside the jazz realm.
Discovering old jazz that I haven't heard before has been most fruitful for me. No current category of music that I'm into lately, but world music is my alternate choice.
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Rok, forget I ever mentioned HD Downloads. I had a problem that caused me to tell those people they were selling "snake oil", when the problem was in my computer and was not identified till after I called my "geek".
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******It's called HD Downloads******
Does this involve computers? If it does, I will have to start at day one, step one. Like, Bill Gates was born on ..........
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Yesterday I was Planning to 'review' 'Miles at the Plugged Nickel', but after a few minutes decided I was not in the mood. I then decided to see what O-10 was so excited about, and put on Toshiko Akiyoshi. Was not in the mood for that either.
I ened up with:
Murray Perahia: Chopin Etudes
Aretha Franklin: The Delta Meets Detroit
Howlin' Wolf: The Chess Box
What do you guys listen to when it's not Jazz?
As the good book says: 'Man cannot live on Bop alone'.
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Hey you guys, Rok, Frogman, and Leersfool, I've just discovered something that's absolutely fantastic, It's called HD Downloads. It's been fantastic for me anyway, and that's because I only use it for records I already have; that way I'm sure of the music. There is no better way to replace scratched vinyl.
I posted a thread on the Analog forum titled HD Down Load compared to Analog that pretty much covers everything. I got absolutely unbelievable results from "Soul Brothers" by Ray Charles and Milt Jackson. That HD Download had the "nuance" I mentioned on this thread that was lacking on the CD. Check it out.
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Frogman, learsfool, and Rok, the reason they can never get it right, or get it wrong a lot of times, is because they are working on two different sounds, one for who ever is on the stage, and another for whoever is far out into the audience. When they get the one for the audience right, people on the stage began to complain that it's wrong.
I've been there before. If the people on the stage realize it doesn't have to be right for them, they can get it right for the audience.
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Isochronism:
******I came across this gem: Blue Bacharach******
Nice CD, but I have three Dionne Warrick CDs. All this sounds very very familiar now.
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Adding to Learsfool's definition: reverb time is how long it takes for sound to die away after it is produced. Because frequency and how loud the sound was to begin with will affect reverb time, acousticians set "60 db below the loudness level of the original sound" as the measuring point. |
Learsfool:
Thanks for the info.
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Hi Rok - to answer your questions about reverb in concert halls is not necessarily easy. What I assume they mean by those particular numbers is how long a chord, say the last chord of a big piece, will ring in the hall AFTER the musicians have actually stopped playing it. Reverb is a very necessary element of a good hall - too little and it will sound dead, too much is also undesirable. There are way too many architectural/acoustical factors that go into it for me to feel comfortable discussing it in great detail.
Basically, though, the acousticians do have this down to a science, or think they do, anyway. In general, you want the sound to go out towards the audience, but you also want some of it coming back. And you also ideally want the musicians to be able to hear each other well across the stage, too. There are some great halls where it sounds amazing in the audience chamber, yet the musicians have a hard time hearing across the stage. There are also some that sound great in the audience chamber, but too much noise also comes back from there to the stage. There are few that get everything absolutely right, and these are not necessarily the relatively newer ones. Symphony Hall in Boston is definitely one of the very best, as is Carnegie Hall in New York, to name two old school examples that still sound just as good or better than anything built lately. But, just like with audiophile equipment, there will be huge disagreements about which halls sound the best. |
