Jazz for aficionados

Frogman, believe it or not, although I bought that LP new, and "Kings of Mali" was my favorite tune; I never thought about the saxophone until you mentioned it, but as you stated "It's the overall conceptual mindset" that counts.

Enjoy the music.

Orpheus10, thanks for the Chico Freeman link; I enjoyed it. I am generally not a big fan of Chico Freeman's saxophone playing, but do enjoy and admire his overall conceptual mindset. He has been part of some really interesting projects, and this is certainly one of them. Reaching back to the roots! What a great sound the balaphone is with it's very unusual tuning. You might enjoy this, and very close to the source:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IW6OCamt-p4

Mingus & Dee Dee, I have both of them, and if they were on LP, they would already be worn out. I think Milestones will be a favorite also.

I have always considered 'Oh Yeah" and 'At Antibes' my favorite mingus. But 'Ah Um' is moving up fast.

Cheers

Marchel Ivery. I was not aware of him. It's on the OJC label. so I think I will try it. But, another one that is already gone before I even know of him.

I wonder why the B-3 organ was not more widely used in Jazz groups? Was it being electric, a factor. I think it's a great instrument for blusey Jazz. Buddy sure can play it.

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O-10:
Mulgrew Miller has died. We can add him to the list of past greats. He, and Lester Young, were both from Mississippi. That State has turned out more than it's share of great musicians.

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Rok, here's Dee Dee Bridgewater doing one of my favorite Horace Silver's tunes "Song for my father"; she's a true gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otcHh-90eo4

"Milestones" was one of my favorites by him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeZomqLM7BQ

"Mingus Ah Um" was my first, and still favorite album by Charles Mingus. Although "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is sad, it's my favorite tune on that album. It was a tribute to Lester Young, and that "Pork Pie Hat" he always wore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsNHDuwJrM

Enjoy the music.

I was also unaware of Billy Bang's death. Bummer!

2007 saw the death of Texas tenor, Marchel Ivery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzVSMLHXwas

A bootleg recording from the old Recovery Room, with Red Garland, Marchel Ivery, James Clay and a college kid named Bob Belden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgScowl9d_Y

There is a part two if interested.

You bring up an interesting point. The only Favorites I can think of at the moment that are still with us: Wynton Marsalis and Dee Dee Bridgewater.

My latest CDs and the year the artist died:

Dizzy Gillespie -- Dizzy's Big 4 1993
Donald Byrd -- The Cat Walk 2013
Lee Morgan -- Take Twelve 1972
Dexter Gordon -- One Flight Up 1990
Miles Davis -- Milestones 1991
Charles Mingus -- Mingus in Europe 1991

Amazing!

Billy Bang was a viet vet. I think he mad a couple of CDs with Nam in the title.

Cheers

Rok, I didn't even know Billy Bang was dead. That makes me wonder how many other jazz musicians who have contributed so much to this music are no longer with us, that I think are still around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ZzX-8wBZ8

This is from [Vietnam: Reflections] 2005, I'll have to get that.

Enjoy the music.

Since you put me in an Iberian mood, I had to pull out:

Carmen - Fantasie
Anne-Sophie Mutter
Wiener - Levine

How can one person have so much talent and beauty. Doesn't that violate some natural law?

Cheers

O-10:

The Jesse Cook in Havana clip is great stuff. I like it better with my eyes open. (the senorita) :) I also listened to a few more of the selections shown on the youtube page.

The music reminds me of what got me interested in music in a serious way.

That Lp was by the 101 strings entitled 'The Soul Of Spain'. I wore out so many LPs playing that music. Finally I got it on CD, and the music sounds horrible. The violins sound as if they are made of metal.

'Malaguena' and 'Granada' were the two numbers that 'grabbed' me initially, but I love them all now.

I will have to find a similar CD with good sonics and the same music.

When it comes to the guitar and guitar music, Spain rules!! Thanks for the link.

Cheers

Rok, here's Jesse Cook in Havana, close your eyes and listen to the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2SJf1J-LHA

Enjoy the music.

Rok, Salome is hot and smoking in every and any use of the words, I ordered the CD.

Enjoy the music.

O-10,

I don't watch or listen to youtube that much, because it's easy to confuse the total visual / audio experience with just the music. If I buy the CD, there will be no pictures of beautiful women and scenery. Then, often times, the music cannot stand on it's on.

Audio only, keeps everything in focus. Now, I did watch a Cab Calloway clip with the Nicholas Brothers today.

That is youtube at it's best. Historic stuff. I found it while looking at the Chico Freeman thingy.

The Brazil thingy was good, but I would not buy it on CD.

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Rok, Stevie Wonder by way of Brasil, how do you like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ET_C0lAwvs

Enjoy the music.

Frogman, this is Chico Freeman, "The Kings of Mali", what do you think about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFUP2LvK2s

Enjoy the music.

A trumpet player friend once said to me: "Freddie Hubbard is a star, Woody Shaw is a legend"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGtO0AW7Io

Acman3, that George Russel cut is amazing! I can't believe that slipped through the cracks for me. What a fantastic and inventive arrangement from one of the most interesting minds in jazz. A lesson in the power of simplicity when you make the right note choices. Truly one of the best things I have heard in a while. Thank you for sharing. Sheila Jordan sounds sublime in "Am I Blue!

The woman is a FOX!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7YsE-wQn9c

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Mel Torme tune was good. Who were the backup singers? He is not my cup of tea, but I did like 'coming home'.

Caravan was good also. Their voices just sounded a little too 'light' for the tune. I like them better in the link below. Miss Janice has not lost anything over the years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCytxcavaEA

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Well Rok, after that trip around the world, I decided to come back home where I belong, and I'm going to start things off with "Mel Torme, I'm Coming Home Baby".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4YlBaPM22c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEE1Nws8TV4

New York voices put words to "Stolen Moments", from "Blues and The Abstract Truth". I also like their version of "Caravan"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfKsRsiq4nk

Enjoy the music.

If JATP did ruin Jazz, it was because it brought in Norman Granz.

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In a music sense, POP does not mean popular. As pertains to music, it's the name of a genre of music. All music is POPULAR to some extent.

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Second part of my post above is a straw argument. Sorry!

Is fusion Jazz? Sometimes.

Is Weather Report Jazz. Of course!

I thought Jazz was once PoP music; what goes around comes around?

Or, are we like the people who thought JATP ruined Jazz because it brought it to a wider audience.

I wonder if Geronimo and Sitting Bull ever knew they were actually Norwegian!!

Fusion: POPULAR music combining different styles (as jazz and rock) ---- From Merriam-Webster.

Since fusion is POP music, it has no place on a Jazz forum. Just saying.

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Rok, a funny thing happened on my way to the record collection, there was a "Weather Report", Fusion! Fusion! and more Fusion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7_vNpVXubA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Z1TDq3ROg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczWDQmKQtA

Enjoy the music.

Jazz Alert!

Most of Freddie Hubbard's best stuff is avalible on Amazon in the 8 - 10 dollar range. Just in case you have missed some of his best. CTI and Blue Note Labels.

Cheers

******my suggestion of..
"Blue Bacharach - A Cooler Shaker" is NOT in the same category of your three Dionne CDs.
I re-address this just so that other readers here do not assume that is the case.**********

I agree. I was, in my typically clumsy way, trying to say, that I was over familiar with the tunes on the CD. I did not mean to infer any other similarity.

This is Jazz and Dionne is pop. Very good pop.

Thanks for your post.
I did put the CD in my waiting to buy list on amazon.

Lou Rawls, Nancy Wilson, and Blue Note!! That should be a slam dunk!

Cheers

Rok,
I do agree with you most of times. Although, my suggestion of..
"Blue Bacharach - A Cooler Shaker" is NOT in the same category of your three Dionne CDs.
I re-address this just so that other readers here do not assume that is the case. It does have three vocal cuts, two of Nancy Wilson, one of Lou Rawls, otherwise all instrumentals of Jazz and Jazz/Blues artists. @ Blue Note records.
If you don't like it, I'd refund your money! Really

Rok, as usual, you're right, but at the same time your wrong. Although she's Lapland, the music is still Native American, and she identifies with Native Americans because she's one of the indigenous people of Norway, and Native Americans are the indigenous people of this country. They have similar cultures.

Git in the Geronimo, Sitting Bull, Cochise groove and shut up.

Enjoy the music.

She is neither native Amerrican or even American. Google says she is from Norway. Lapland?? Nice Music anyway.

Cheers

Today's Recommendations:

Clark Terry -- Yes, The Blues
with / Cleanhead Vinson (on alto and vocals) and others

Nothing to figure out here. Just pros playing well. Is it Bop, Blues or R&B? Well it depends on which part of which tune you are listening to at the time.

Ella can sound like an instrument, and on this set, Terry's trumpet sounds like a vocalist.

Cleanhead is not a bad sax player either. They both do one vocal number each. Let's hope Terry sticks with trumpet!
Not essential, but nice to have.

Miles Davis -- '58 Sessions
featuring 'Stella By Starlight'
with/ Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans, Paul Chambers, and Jimmy Cobb.

Two different sets on one CD. First 4 tunes in the studio, the last three live at a hotel in NYC.
Great tune selection.

I like the overall ambience of the live numbers. it was at a party given by Columbia to celebrate the state of Jazz at the label. Seems as if Cannonball and Coltrane were engaged in a cutting session on 'Straight, No Chaser'.

The solos were awesome on all tunes. So much horn play, Evans seems to have gotten lost. One of his solos sounded as if he was a few rooms down the hall. Probably due to the miking at the live event.

Essential? It depends on how many CDs you have with Miles, Coltrane, Cannonball, Chambers, Evans and Cobb all playing in the same group. If you have a bunch, you might be able to skip this one. if not, Git it!.

The Live vs studio thingy is an irritant. Slight tape hiss.

Cheers

Rok, sometime I venture into a different kind of spiritual world that's one with the music, it's called "Native American", I can hear the call of the wild through the music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fI83WGsuyo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kvTNbc8d5s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7o9_Lh3iH8

You have entered the world of the "human beings" the Native Americans.

Enjoy the music.

Frogman, I got my order in for Johnny Griffin. Your opinion of Lorez is an indication of just how "subjective" female vocalists are. While I'm not impressed by Carmen Lundy, she seems interesting as a person, and I'm investigating her art and biography.

Enjoy the music.

Oh, and I forgot, she is also a talented visual artist.

Lorez Alexandria sounds good, but doesn't kill me. A little "pitchy", and she and the rhythm section aren't always locked in. I like her tone; nice voice quality.

Here's a great "jazz singer we never heard of". Amazing talent; she writes most her own material AND writes the string and horn arrangements. Fantastic rhythm section on this record.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U21lJqJAxYs

Loved the Gene Ammons cuts. What a distinctive tenor sound: dark, fat, and with just the right amount of nasal edge; and man could he ever play in the pocket! Amazing time feel. Thanks, I have not pulled out any of my Jug records in a while.

Since we are on the subject of tenor players, here's two more of my favorites from that era. Johnny Griffin kills on this record. And checkout Ben Riley on drums; amazing! Actually, great rhythm section.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=relmfu&v=NB4lJyFxDPs

Acman3, if I had been there, I would have been overwhelmed as well. I've got several discs of Luc Ponty when he was in that bag, after this, I'll have to get that.

Enjoy the music.

Rok, I'm using HD Downloads to replace damaged LP's, but since you don't have LP's, forget about it.

Lorez Alexandria is a vocalist I don't believe we've covered, and I like her a lot. She has all the attributes of old school vocalists with no short comings to my ears. Here's Lorez:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetIA9SoX6c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWXimvRssmQ

Enjoy the music.

I was fortunate to see this group in the old Caravan of Dreams in Ft. Worth. I was sitting about 3' in front of Di Meola. It was sort of overwhelming to the senses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmboKbCxbs

You are right about Ammons. I have 'Boss Tenor' and 'Boss Tenors', which is Ammons with Sonny Stitt. The one with BEAN looks interesting. I hope it's still aval.

I don't have the SA8004. I have the SA8001 which does not have USB. How Is the USB involved in HD downloads? I do copy CD to USB memory stick for my car.

I was so concerned about CD players disappearing from newer Cars, but I now like the USB stick even better. I copy using the highest (cd) quality.

Your choice of 'alternate' music sounded 'nice'. Won't bother anyone. :)

Cheers

One can never have too much Gene Ammons, I can listen to his boss tenor all day long. Here are a few of my favorites by "jug".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XsuljkopC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLKVsMuYoZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwGj7gn-fdY

Enjoy the music.

Rok, I assume you're using the USB input on your Marantz SA8004?

*******You lost me with "The Wolf Man", that's the kind of blues I can live without********

That kind of blues is called 'The Blues' :)

Cheers

Rok, here's some of my alternative music;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYQVRTbIEmQ&feature=fvwrel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXtMCVHDddI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2CR1I4IuY

Enjoy the music.

Rok, my grandmother liked "Chopin", I heard her say it when I was very young. It was ages before I discovered "Chopin" and "Sho pan" were the same person. I liked him until he got a little too busy for me.

I saw Aretha live in Detroit, you can't go wrong with Aretha; just the sound of her voice floods me with memories of good times.

You lost me with "The Wolf Man", that's the kind of blues I can live without. One out of three ain't bad, when you consider that it was outside the jazz realm.

Discovering old jazz that I haven't heard before has been most fruitful for me. No current category of music that I'm into lately, but world music is my alternate choice.

Enjoy the music.

Rok, forget I ever mentioned HD Downloads. I had a problem that caused me to tell those people they were selling "snake oil", when the problem was in my computer and was not identified till after I called my "geek".

******It's called HD Downloads******

Does this involve computers? If it does, I will have to start at day one, step one. Like, Bill Gates was born on ..........

Cheers