*****Weather Report "I Sing The Body Electric"; that took me to another dimension, or maybe another planet in a far away galaxy; I'm not sure where, ******
From the sounds of things, it was The BORG Home World. By Jove, I think the OP has been assimilated!!
Zawinul, what happened to him? He was great while with Cannonball.
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If you live in SF Bay area you should try the SF Jazz Center for a performance. Great artists and a first rate acoustic venue. It may be the best in the Jazz Hall in the country. Always had a great time and good dinning in the center and other good restaurants with in short walking distances. Saw Taj Mahal trio last night. They were hot. |
O-10, very strange. I do check Preview and they also play back fine on the Kindle AND my IPhone. Will repost later today. Thanks. |
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Frogman, you're doing it again, check PREVIEW before you submit, that way you'll know you got it right.
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Isochronism, now THAT'S funny. I hope you agree; sorry. I hate this fu#@$ng spell checker! Using my wife's Kindle until my new IPad arrives and given my history of destroying non- stereo electronic devices, I have been forbidden from touching the settings :-) |
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****I was going by the recording date. 2010. Surely you and the OP cannot be critical of anything recorded that recent.****
Focus, people, focus!!!! :-)
This is one of those times when I wonder wether we are just spinning our wheels without focus. The issue is not the recording date, but the music's style that defines what era we are talking about. I think that this may explain some of the disagreement about some of the players we talk about. The Wynton clip is a fine study of this; at least from the standpoint that I'm coming from. This is not meant as yet more Wynton bashing since a player that accomplished can't be bashed; but, we talk about the very best of the genre on this thread. Wynton is an incredibly versatile musician and fabulous trumpet player (two different things), he can play modern and traditional jazz, and Classical. He does it all well with the kind of trumpet skill that is almost unheard of. But, I listen to that clip of "Sweet Georgia Brown" and I hear along with Wynton two players (Vignola and O'Connor) who have made that style of traditional jazz ("hot jazz") their thing and their thing only. They don't (can't) play modern or Classical. They have lived and breathed that idiom and understand the language in a very deep way. I guess I don't have to say whose solos are the most coherent and idiomatic. The most obvious way to tell is always by imaging that we didn't hear the "head" (tune) at the top, that there is no rhythm section playing and one is just hearing the solo, then ask yourself the question: would I still be able to tell what tune they are soloing over? Can we follow the tune? Wynton sounds impressive as hell, but he can't help but resort to some pyrotechnics and playing around with the time in a way that is not idiomatic. Vignola and O'Connor (especially Vignola) are inventive and very idiomatic.
Great clip, fun, great feel, great playing all the way around; but...... |
****The ones I have sound great, and get excellent reviews, but if there are better out there, I want them.****
I have no idea wether the Aegos are better than what you have or not, but I can tell you that I have heard Audioengine speakers that sound better than my Aegos. Good luck. |
Anachronism, Tia Fuller is a very nice player and yet another example of a current young player who can really play. She has a modern harmonic sensibility combined with a (dare I say it?) rather feminine tone that is round with little edge and is not splitting the horn at the seams. Nice observation about her drummer Kim Thompson who, like Tony Williams, has a very propulsive but light touch on the ride cymbal. Thanks! https://m.youtube.com/?#watch?v=s72zz92nvcI |
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*****Rok, just as sure as the sun sets in the west and rises in the east, I could have predicted your post.******
I can only be me. I didn't like those guys back in the day. You said it yourself, we are exposed to, and programed, to hear certain music. Some things I just don't 'hear'.
When I look thru my LP collection, I am amazed at some of the stuff I once thought was good. Examples: Grover Washington, Weather Report, Gabor Szabo, Lee Ritenour, Pat Metheny, Al di Meola, Herbie Mann, Stanley Jordan, Al Jarreau etc......... you get the drift. Just passing fads. So I have had my fill of noise makers.
But, the great stuff never fades. It remains great forever. And I bought it all again on CD.
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***** I use the Aego sattelite/subw three piece system by Acoustic Energy and it sounds fantastic for what it is.*****
I found them, and they look interesting, but I have only found them on UK sites. Will keep looking.
The ones I have sound great, and get excellent reviews, but if there are better out there, I want them.
What happened to J&R??
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*****I think you're going in the wrong direction.*****
I was going by the recording date. 2010. Surely you and the OP cannot be critical of anything recorded that recent.
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The Drummer, she slightly reminisces Tony Williams to me. |
Recommendation:
Tia Fuller "Decisive Steps" features her all fully competent female band which reminds me of the old adage pertaining to women being the stronger sex.
She does allow three token Males on a few cuts :) which is: Christian McBride, Sean Jones & Warren Wolf.
They can certainly hold their own, otherwise. |
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I think you're going in the wrong direction. |
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Rok, I use the Aego sattelite/subw three piece system by Acoustic Energy and it sounds fantastic for what it is. The seats are tiny. I don't know if it is still available, but I would recommend them used if not. Good luck. |
Rok, I am listening through the computer speaker in my MAC. so you know what that sounds like. Even worse as the music gets complex. I just bought new speakers on the main stereo, so I will keep listening to the computer speakers for a while.
I saw Freddie and Clapton in 1974 or 75. They tore it up for the encore. |
Nice clip of King(Texas) and Clapton. They are playing real blues. Not the zillion note a minute 'blues'. When there is a singer, that is where the emphasis has to be.
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****so I can hear it better than my computer speakers. ****
What computer speakers do you have. I am listening to more and more music clips on the computer, and I wonder how my speakers stack up.
I have Logitech Z2300. Any input on computer speakers would be appreciated.
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I will definitely have to get that Pharoah album, so I can hear it better than my computer speakers. A lot of things happening! Noise my a$$! |
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Shorter is Shorter. One of my favorites. Now I will have to listen to that CD today. I'll call your noise maker with a wok on his head, and raise you this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7eeb1MTkUYIf you aren't moving while this is playing, RUN, don't walk to the nearest ER. You may be dead. Cheers |
Frogman, it didn't take long to wear that first LP out and I had to buy another one, keep it going.
Enjoy the music.
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Shit. Thanks for the fix. My understanding of this computer stuff is marginal. Well at least the Wayne Shorter can be downloaded (the cream always rises to the top).
VTA, anyone? |
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Frogman:
This has been a problem with a lot of your posts for a while.
This link goes to YOUTUBE home page, with no indication of a clip.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=f-ABO74MEXQ
This one works after the #/ is removed.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ABO74MEXQ
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The Kindle puts a # in. { .com/#/watch } |
Something is up with my links. They were posted using my wife's Kindle and I don't seem to be able access them on my IPad. Please let me know if they don't work. Thanks. |
Frogman, go to preview first before you submit your post; they come up with multiple choices.
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Ellington 66. " I want to hold your hand" was the song, but the whole album is fun. |
Strange. I was about to do the same and post "one more" favorite from the 60s when your post came through. Here's mine: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=f-ABO74MEXQSuspense is killing me, what is in your link; link still doesn't work for me. |
The link works on my end?????? |
Acman3, you're on a roll; your link doesn't work, kindly check. |
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Acman3, you're killing me. That pre-BB clip is fantastic and a fascinating look at an important transitional period indeed. Same front line, different rhythm section as the earlier bootleg clips; very different vibe, and possible to hear that BB was around the corner. Miles sounds amazing in his ideas and as a trumpet player; his chops are in peak form. Great stuff! Thanks for turning me on to these clips. |
On-10, thanks for the Gato and Grover clips. As you said, they won't be everyone's cup of tea. Gato is an interesting player in that I can't think of any other player that went from being part of the "free-jazz" scene to almost being an icon of the pop-jazz scene. It has been said many times that what keeps a "free" or avant-garde player from the b.s. designation is his ability to still play "inside" or in a traditional bag. But there are always exceptions to every rule, Gato could never (still can't) navigate the chord changes of "Stella Stella By Starlight" or play the blues to Rok's (or my) satisfaction, but he has a SOUND. He built a career around that gritty and very expressive SOUND. He became a kind of one trick pony but noise maker he is not; he has the ability to CONNECT with the unwashed. And who was it that said that the unwashed rule? http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=FIRI6CvtO6o |
Actually, my thanks was intended for O-10, but thanks to you too.
****My. work is never done. So much to impart, so little time****
How true, you certainly.....wait!... oh, I see...IMPART. I thought you had written IMPAIR.
Don't work so hard :-) |
******Thanks for enlightenjng me about this.******
My work is never done. So much to impart, so little time.
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Frogman, jukeboxes was the publics first exposure to high end audio; this lasted until they switched to SS; before, they had tubes and high quality cartridges.
Enjoy the music.
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Rok, just as sure as the sun sets in the west and rises in the east, I could have predicted your post. Do whatever floats your boat.
Enjoy the music.
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Alex, if it works for you, it works for me; I'll still respond to your posts.
Enjoy the music.
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