Jazz for aficionados
pjw A Metheny acoustic disc I like (although interpretation of pop songs) is Whats it All About http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9E3G1Z0D-4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBt9bDsGW78 |
nsp I can relate with you on Metheny. His musical direction can be a tad to much on the "new world" or "free" genre (I believe Ornette Coleman was a big influence on Metheny). The session with Holland and Hays is grounded a little more in the traditional jazz idiom. I really like Roy’s drumming on the 2 songs. |
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pjwMetheny's music in the 80's/90's melded with the direction ECM was taking. A lot of their artists explored different genres with jazz elements.A good fit for both artist and label. I am a big fan of Roy Haynes playing with everybody( and he has played with almost everyone ). I was able to catch him live once at a small jazz club it was a memorable evening. I found another Metheny trio recording with another great drummer, B Higgins Rejoicing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol33IdtDL4Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-bO3EwZUA8 |
pjwI really like Peter Bernstein also and enjoyed the live clip with his organ trio.An album of his I enjoy w/ B Mehldau on piano :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-dmT5ZOik 5 Bernstein originals 4 standards i am going to listen to your Lyle Mays clips tomorrow |
nsp That's a great lineup on that Bernstein album. Great song you chose. I do not have that recording but I do have Somethins' Burnin' which is also from the mid 90's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUG6uAVkY38 I have seen Jimmy Cobb's "Cobbs Mob" at Smoke in NYC in 2012 and it had the same lineup as the Somethins' Burnin" disc plus Eric Alexander on the tenor sax. |
How about some Gene Ammons? Mr.Boss Tenor! I just bought "Gene Ammons All Star Sessions" - a 1955 mono Prestige LP for $7.95 + $4.77 shipping from EBay. Engineered by Rudy Van Gelder. Side two is Ammons battling with Sonny Stitt from an earlier session! A true gem in excellent analog sound! From the "golden age" of Jazz! |
roberjerman Gene Ammons is a staple in my jazz collection. He has to many great recording sessions to list. His "jam session" recordings are fantastic. Besides Boss Tenors with Stitt I have: The Chase (with Dexter Gordon) Funky (with Art Farmer, Jackie McLean, Kenny Burrell, Mal Waldron, Doug Watkins, and Art Taylor) Groove Blues (with John Coltrane, Pepper Adams, Paul Quinichette, Jerome Richardson, Mal Waldron, George Joyner, and Art Taylor) The Happy Blues (with Art Farmer, Jackie McLean, Duke Jordon, Addison Farmer, Art Taylor, and conga player Candito) Jammin' In Hi Fi (with Idrees Suliman, Jackie McLean, Mal Waldron, Kenny Burrell, Paul Chambers, and Art Taylor) Jammin' With Gene (with Donald Byrd, Jackie McLean, At Farmer, Mal Waldron, Doug Watkins, and Art Taylor) These disks are essential jam sessions full of improvisations from all the players on stretched out songs of no more then 5 per session |
frogman Nice "bird" songs. I like Rufus "speedy" Jones and his double bass kit. Another Basie clip showcasing Seeedy's talent. You don't often see double bass kits with jazz drummers. The second part has Sinatra showcasing his great vocals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am3RZzj3BhY&list=RDEMaH_3URczGLYRwmVgAZfbTQ&start_radio=1 More Rufus Jones this time with the Duke again using a double bass kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPKYc0X76Gg&list=RDEMaH_3URczGLYRwmVgAZfbTQ&index=2 |
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That is very beautiful, the Bluebird of Alexis Ffrench, thank you acman. Ffrench explains of "Bluebird": "I wanted to write something with a certain immediacy that spoke to people and connected with them, as that’s always at the forefront of my mind. The training for a classical musician is steeped in words and academia but my main aim is always to communicate with people." "Bluebird, for me, is filled with a variety of influences, from Debussy and Satie, and is an expression of love and hope. It is born out of improvisation. I wanted to write something that expressed a certain innocence and purity. There’s so much trauma around us right now and I wanted to share a moment of calm, beauty and consolation. There isn’t enough of that in the world." ~source The Independent UK |
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You would get no real argument from me on that. I think we can all agree that “soul”, in all it’s different and personal flavors, is a requirement for greatness in art; and, to a degree, in the ear of the listener. Shorter is one of the tallest of the giants alongside Miles, Trane, Bird. Not only a great improviser with a unique and very personal voice, but one of the truly great composers in jazz. Having said that, it’s kind of hard to pick one above the others when the others are Cedar Walton, Art Blakey and Bob Cranshaw. Still, if forced to choose who was the most relevant of the four, I think it would have to be Shorter. Thanks for the Mintzer clip; one of the most relevant current player/composers. |
When you add "Soulful" I think more of Walton than Shorter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_FB26FINQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsX8kMD5V3A |
Love the Bird songs, and have to say that Shorter is one of my all-time favorites, soulful or not! Mintzer is very good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSImxDNE6jQ |
acman , I think you made my point . Shorter was the only guy in his trio that could actually put some heart in that dissonance. Certainly not trying to " dis " you , its just easier to hear when you are about same age as Shorter .Seems to be hard for younger people , which is logical IMO . i.e Gonzalo Rubalcabla , they hear him as a very talented player . I hear him as someone who uses that talent to praise the divine, he himself says as much in interviews . Not in every thing he does , but it's always hanging around . |
Schubert, Thats the thing, I can hear heart/soul from all player in Shorter's band. They have been together for almost 20 years, and are playing in a very advanced style. Their interplay is right up there with Miles great late 60's group, which had Wayne Shorter, not surprisingly, in it. I am not offended by your viewpoint in the least and will ponder on it for awhile. It is always welcome. I also hear what you hear in Gonzalo Rubalcabla. I hear the same with Gregory Porter. Hard to get heard without the talent they have been given and developed. |
Well it is certainly possible that you hear soul better than I do .It sure is a advanced style and no doubt it is, and should be , admired by musicians . I'm not a musician . It's true wisdom comes with age . Also true it knocks on the door and most don't open it . In my 80's a lot of people have asked me for advice .First thing , often last thing , I say to anyone about life is "pay attention " .Don't think you need that advice acman . |
