I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
rok , thanks for the clip of Xuan Luong staring up at Hood. I see he is now 2 star forward commander Japan .Impressive for an ROTC product ! The spanking the great Giap gave Willy showed the DNA was there in spades . Cheers
@rok2id
"I don't understand why I am part of the problem. Please elaborate."
The problem I presented to O-10 is different from the problem you see. I said:
<<Too few do ("get it"), as denial of the history and lasting impact of
American Apartheid runs very, very deep.
It’s there for those who want to research it, but most don’t.
>> If you have researched and do understand that history and its lasting impact, just say so. Reading your posts, you don't seem to, so you appear to be part of the problem I cited.
Alex, I will respond out of respect for you and the fact that you seem to be asking for a response from me. Only this one time; and last time on the topic. If I am mistaken about your wish for a response I would refer you to the last paragraph here and what I wrote in my previous post.
**** , for obvious reasons often I do not take you very serious, in fact, as younger population would say, I find that some of your posts are quite ’sick’, in a funny way.****
Is that better? I don’t think so. In fact, some might say it is even more provocative. Re “lines that should not be crossed”:
**** but I would not call it as something that should be accebtable to ones that consider themself to be human ****
In the context of the reservations that I expressed re trying to communicate one’s feelings about some of these complicated issues on a forum like this, for me, this comment crosses that line.
Rok, I agree, as I said, you seem to be a funny guy, looking from distance.
Next quatation is not a try to continue 'discussion' with you, it is for Frogman. It seems to me that you have forgot to quote the lines that started all (at least in my case)
'I have nothing against war. Some of humanity's finest hours happened during war. And sometimes war is the only solution to the problem. And don't forget the major advances in social situations, science and medicine that happen during war.
Also, the climate / environment is in crisis. The greatest cause from humans, is over population. There are too many people on this planet. War helps with that also.'
Now, on some blunt level, some of that might even be true, but I would not call it as something that should be accebtable to ones that consider themself to be human. Some lines should never be crossed
**** let me tell you what conservatives hate more than anything****
****due to your unconcern for the problems****
****I know what you mean about "conservatives " and well off blacks****
****unless you are either sociopath or****
****You’re clearly part of the problem, and you’ll never see it.****
****I did not even click on your link A hole****
****I find that some of your posts are quite ’sick’,****
****debate your idiotic viewpoints****
****a narcissistic prick such as yourself.****
Did someone here point out that “it always turns ugly”?
All those baseless generalizations and all that vitriol as if, from simply Internet forum posts (!), anyone here could possibly understand the full measure of any other individual and what is truly in his/her heart. Things that are the result of their personal life experiences and which they may, or may not, choose to share on an Internet forum. Not to mention, as if any one of us has the writing skills to fully and accurately express them.
I see now that, sensitive and enlightened individuals that we all are, we have changed minds and viewpoints and made progress toward a better world.
BTW, I told "Deep State" that everyday was a good day to die. They tried to accommodate me by causing my death by "natural causes"; no one would know, except the assassin doctor that injected the infection or whatever that caused my death.
Been there, done that, and I’m still alive. It’s only as a result of "Serendipity" that I’m alive.
Jafant,I don't even watch myself for the United States Government, so why should I watch myself for Southerners? Although Mississippi is the poorest state in the union, and it's a known fact that poor people are quick to get needlessly violent, maybe I should heed your warning.
"Than again, I dont think that anybody in particular is interested for that story either, so no need to go in depth of explanations who hated who and why (that goes to Mary Jo)".
I haven’t noticed that I went into depths. It would take at least several pages for just to scratch the surface. The matter was shortly mentioned so I answered the same. I can’t determine if one is interested in finding out the truth or not. But can’t ignore the false statements and have to bring out the facts. Period.
Paul, dont worry, there is no need to be oversensitive when we mention some recent history (of these parts)
Ethnic cleansing that you mentioned happened mostly in Bosnia and on smaller scale in some parts of Croatia, but never really anyhere on Adriatic coast where I live.
Than again, I dont think that anybody in particular is interested for that story either, so no need to go in depth of explanations who hated who and why (that goes to Mary Jo)
My point was simple, you just cant 'praise' the war. (maybe some revolution from time to time, at max) unless you are either sociopath or you have some financial benefit from it, which is cynical point of view and again should not be stated openly, if you consider yourself a gentleman.
Now, personally I can tell you that my town saw very little fighting, at the begining of conflict, but some other parts of country were struck badly.Lots of people went to war, in one way or another (it was not a classic 'all in' conflict) some made it back unscaved, but also some of the guys from my elementary school and some oher that I knew, never returned home. Also, because war is quite turbulent time in many ways, streets were floaded with heroin and many more died of that as well. I guess that techno music kind of changed that trend, so there is something positive about that 'sound', after all.
I guess I could tell you many stories about those times and aldo they may be dark, I bet you would laugh to hear some of them.
As for Frogmans story, not only the people who got bombed suffer. Here, some 3000 war weterans commited suicide since the end of war. That is massive number and the damage that war creates to society in general cant be even calculated, like perhaps the damage in economy.
So,aldo its hard for individual to fight against the system, or even to ask from somebody to feel sorry about some people somewhere in the middle east for examp, but at least dont tell me that is good to bring home your own dead and wounded, just for sake of somebody elses profit, because, obviously, those trillion of dollars spend on arms would better serve people who need jobs, education, healthcare or plain infrastracture...
This was indeed bloody division but it does not represent all Muslims so this is not good place to start.
You do not seem like a guy that would easily get under the influence of propaganda, so I am counting on that when telling you that during the past, all nations on this part of Balkan were striving to unite. Constantly. Especially we all got along very well after the WWII. Croats, Serbs, Muslims, Slovenes, Albanians, Macedonians, Montenegrins. All. In fact, we even were quite tolerant to the people who were persecuted in many parts of the Europe - Romani (tzigane, gypsies). And we were progressive country in so many ways.
Today, we are something else. I do not recognize my people any more. And this is why admire this what fro have written, ’cause it shows what some people still have. The qualities that make us human. Humanity.
"Re moving on:
In 1994 I toured Japan with a major American symphony orchestra. One month performing in every major city in the country and the first of eight visits so far to that very interesting nation. The last stop was Hiroshima and the first time any of the musicians had visited the city. Shallow minded that we all were at the time we braced ourselves for what we thought would be the inevitable prejudice and antagonism due to the obvious reason. The reception that we received collectively and individually was incredible. The level of appreciation for the performances and general warmth and generosity on a personal level are something I will never forget. Quite a lesson."
I was referring to alex because I am sure he was talking about the recent history of the Balkans.
If you dare to talk about the Balkan's region in any other context (and I did not even click on your link A hole), I would be more then happy to debate your idiotic viewpoints but I do not think a jazz forum is the place to argue with a narcissistic prick such as yourself.
Just the wording or tone of your posts sounded foreign, to my ears.
Just wondered. Anyway: *****
You're clearly part of the problem, and you'll never see it.*****
Since I have never committed a crime, or sold drugs, or taken drugs, or mugged anyone, or robbed anyone, or gotten any girl pregnant outside of marriage, or been a member of a gang, or killed anyone,
But I have helped people all my life as an officer in the military. Several years ago during desert Storm, I received a phone call at some ungodly hour. It was from a former soldier of mine. He was calling from Iraq. Wanted to thank me for all I had done to help him.
He was a former lookout for a drug gang in Miami. Judge said jail or Military, he chose Army. I saw the promise in him, he is now an officer in the US Army. I have always helped and encouraged those that I felt no one else would encourage. IF, they were ready. I got a lot of calls from Iraq and Afghanistan.
So, I don't understand why I am part of the problem. Please elaborate.
*****
I have read quite a few books on the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans in the 90's.*****
Well, you are going to have go back a lot farther than to 90's to have any understanding of the Balkans. We, Americans, always seem to think that the history of any area or country starts the day we show up.
alex, Anyone who has to dig a trench on the front and sit in it knows. Anyone who make comments like rok has obviously never been in a fox hole.
I have read quite a few books on the ethnic cleansing in the Balkans in the 90's. If you were there and experienced it, whether Muslim or Christian, all I can say is god bless you.
I know you do not listen to rock anymore but this ones for you:
Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of death's construction In the fields the bodies burning As the war machine keeps turning Death and hatred to mankind Poisoning their brainwashed minds Oh Lord yeah
Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight They leave that all to the poor, yeah
Time will tell on their power minds Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess Wait 'till their judgment day comes, yeah
Now in darkness world stops turning As the war machine keeps burning? No more war pigs have the power Hand of God has struck the hour Day of judgment God is calling On their knees, the war pigs crawling Begging mercy for their sins Satan laughing spreads his wings Oh Lord yeah
In 1994 I toured Japan with a major American symphony orchestra. One month performing in every major city in the country and the first of eight visits so far to that very interesting nation. The last stop was Hiroshima and the first time any of the musicians had visited the city. Shallow minded that we all were at the time we braced ourselves for what we thought would be the inevitable prejudice and antagonism due to the obvious reason. The reception that we received collectively and individually was incredible. The level of appreciation for the performances and general warmth and generosity on a personal level are something I will never forget. Quite a lesson.
Rok, nope, none of that. The death of T only made it faster to happen. But that was not the cause. The destiny of SSSR had nothing to do with it either since SSSR and SFRY were two completely different countries in many, many ways.To put it more clear, similarities between them were minor.
"The tensions were always there." So were in Africa because Africa is rich in natural resources. We were rich in something else. I think you get my point.
Alex, war is indeed sometimes the only solution (unfortunately) and is definitely in human nature (again unfortunately). Remember what had to happen to gain liberté, égalité, fraternité. Remember also what happen afterwards. The big R eats it’s kids. Humans (what a nice word to call a man) are doomed.
*****
Rok, I could tell you who was working hard to break the former SFRY*****
The death of Tito started them on the road to ruin. The collapse of the soviet union, and withdrawal of the Red Army from Eastern Europe, meant they were doomed.
"Btw, people in your part of the world have been fighting and hating forever. Til this day."
Rok, I could tell you who was working hard to break the former SFRY, what eventually has lead to war on this area in the year 1991. But will not. Take a guess.
" I agree with most of your sociological statements. The politicians in control of this country pit individuals against each other with labels like liberal and conservative and the general population falls for it. meanwhile the rich and large corporations control this country Lock Stock & Barrel. The rich get richer and the poor and the middle class get drunk."
nsp, you understood exactly where I'm coming from. Barack Obama bailed out Wall street, gave billions to corporations, and Southerners called him a Socialist; that lets us know everything we want to know about Southerners.
The corporations are firmly in control of both parties, and the class struggle we are now engaged in will have to be waged without Southerners; just scratch them off.
The problems we have are so monumental, that I don't know how to proceed in order to make progress, but some things are for certain, we must face these problems and we must identify these problems; only then can we began to solve them.
Alex, The Bible says there will always be wars and rumors of wars. The Bible also says Cain killed his brother Able when there were only a handful of people in the world. Now that may not be literally true, but the Bible is a great source of information on human nature and conduct. The story shows that man will ALWAYS find a reason to fight and kill each other. Always.
We can also let the record reflect that, Rok2id, has never started a war.
War not like the movies? Dang!! I thought you grabbed your shoulder, shouted "they got me", and then, all your comrades would gather around while you, with your last breath, dictated an hour long letter to Mom and your girl friend. You mean to say it's not like that??? is ANYTHING true in the world??
Cheers
Btw, people in your part of the world have been fighting and hating forever. Til this day.
Rok, for obvious reasons often I do not take you very serious, in fact, as younger population would say, I find that some of your posts are quite 'sick', in a funny way. Than,I've read the last one, about 'war' and it left me perplexed, to say at least. I do not believe that calling that statement childlish or cynical would change your 'opinion' and certainly this is not the place for such exchange of words. I can only guess that you probably have not seen much of war from first hand, otherwise you might have very diferent opinion.
Again, do not want to sound too pathetic, but people who live in these parts of the world had an 'opportunity' to witness it, some more, some less, and I can assure you, it does not look like in the movies at all....
warning, next link is qiute disturbing....one of many, ugly, faces of war....
***** you are not talking about the one who escalated the war in Vietnam are you" in response to the describing Lyndon Johnson as the person who did the most for blacks. I noticed no response to that!!*****
What’s one thing to do with the other? Although Vietnam was the first war in which all groups in this country fought fully integrated, which went a long way towards cementing civil rights in this country.
***** had he lived he probably would have been the one to sign the Civil Rights bill. Why can’t others accept that?*****
Are you saying people should "accept" something that never happened? Sounds like coulda, shoulda, woulda to me. LBJ actually DID IT. Why can’t you accept that?
Your statements show how illogical and conflicted a lot of people are when it comes to history. There is real history, and then, there is that, that they wish was history. They can’t separate the facts from what they wished had happened.
In ANY society, the ignorant and uninformed, will always be played.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFH7YQ-2U2w frogman glad to hear that Benny Golson is still alive. I've been listening to this LP including him and all the compositions were written by him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhvWZ62oVXg mary_joGreat statement " you are not talking about the one who escalated the war in Vietnam are you" in response to the describing Lyndon Johnson as the person who did the most for blacks. I noticed no response to that!! O10 - I agree with most of your sociological statements. The politicians in control of this country pit individuals against each other with labels like liberal and conservative and the general population falls for it. meanwhile the rich and large corporations control this country Lock Stock & Barrel. The rich get richer and the poor and the middle class get drunk. your example of your example of President Kennedy helping blacks that you personally knew was a good one. He was probably the first president to push for civil rights and had he lived he probably would have been the one to sign the Civil Rights bill. Why can't others accept that?
I have nothing against war. Some of humanity's finest hours happened during war. And sometimes war is the only solution to the problem. And don't forget the major advances in social situations, science and medicine that happen during war.
Also, the climate / environment is in crisis. The greatest cause from humans, is over population. There are too many people on this planet. War helps with that also.
Cheers
Btw, I never go to VA Doctors / hospitals. There is a special medical license that limits a doctor's practice to, Indian Reservations, Federal prisons and the US Military. 'Nuff said
Rok, if you ever have any opinions against war, you had better keep them to yourself if you're at the VA. Doctors can make bad things happen to you, they follow orders; I don't know who gives the orders, ask the eye in the sky.
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