Jazz for aficionados

Ok rok, maybe I got the wrong clips . I 'll try again .
BTW , I gathered right away you were likely Southern Baptist , all NCO's are not stupid . LOL

Maybe you missed it Pryso, but that specific clip has been discussed. That's the only version of "Sweet Georgia Brown" that I like, it's not my favorite tune.

Exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt4PyEFlf6Q

Cheers

Thanks Frogman for the 'blowing' info.   I suspected that would be the answer, but best to be sure.

Cheers

***** rok, were you serious about that pop junk ?*****

As you implied, we are all victims ... errrr...   I mean products of our upbringing.    Mine was Southern and Baptist.   Where the line between the Church  music and secular music is very, very, very thin.

Not Junk at all.   Listen to the voices.

Cheers

Frog , who was the conductor on your Philly clip ? Never heard them so totally wonderful , perfect tempo. Could be just the Barber , in my hears he is the greatest American composer period .
Almost got in a fight at a concert once when a "born again " nut was saying
no gay man could write religious music . And I always walk away from one . The Adagio is the un-official National Anthem , go to with every tragedy . If I was running things it would be the official one .Love is better than bombs .

No sweat .
Internet is not human , we humans use inflection as the real meaning of what we say .

I completely agree, and a great lesson.  Did I somehow give the impression that I felt otherwise?  My comment had nothing to do with....well, you know.  Great choir!

Regarding Anita, this was one of my early contributions to this site but I don't remember it generating much comment.  Both songs here kill me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcMmVGrzpy8

o10, you simply said "Since the black and white movies were forgettable", I couldn't guess you intended only the B films.  I just took you at your word.  And my response to cheesecake was made for the title of the clip, nothing you said, so that was just FYI in fun.

Regarding your 12/9 post with the two jazz soundtrack film lists, I missed it initially.  I have some of those albums and a few of the DVDs.  Interesting there is not that much overlap between the two lists, until the #1 at least.  But bottom line, I fully agree that much great music, jazz and otherwise, comes from soundtracks.  In fact one of my friends contends the best classical music currently written is found in film scores.

frogman , Jesus wasn’t kidding when he said " Love they Enemy " .
Perhaps the hardest thing to do, but there it is .
I talked to many Russian Soldiers in Berlin , they were friendly , polite and the same thing I was , A soldier .

Fabulous Agnus Dei, Schubert. Thanks for that.

In the off chance that someone has not heard Barber’s original composition that he later arranged for choir, here it is. Similar pacing from one of the best orchestral string sections ever (often played too cloyingly slow):

https://youtu.be/ThDIKvee_mY

Re pop Christmas songs and the Red Army choir. Great, of course, but.....

Always room for a some lightheartedness this time of year 😃

https://youtu.be/GfZPtkqXQIA

If your going to listen to pop Christmas songs , you might as well listen to the best songs , sung by the most powerful male choir in history .Sad to say , many of these men died in a plane crash . On Christmas Day !
https://youtu.be/MOqPOrngccM
Try as they might Stalin and Company never killed the Christian Heart of Mother Russia and the Saints of Orthodox Christianity , the oldest branch
of Christianity , who died for it .

Sleep well , fellow Soldiers . And Jesus said " Love they Enemy " 
https://youtu.be/QF6zp7sdTSo

Rok, re “blowing” session.

In Jazz parlance “blowing” is soloing/mprovising, Obviously, the literal meaning refers to blowing air (into a horn), but in Jazz when a piano, guitar, bass player, or even drummer plays a solo he is also “blowing”. A “blowing session” is a session in which the emphasis is the soloing with less emphasis on the compositions or attempt at any particularly interesting arrangement, One usually hears a basic, even generic, reading of the melody (usually standards) and then everyone “blows” usually extended solos. One could say that the music is usually characterized by a looser, even more causal, vibe; the players are having fun.

That is one of my favorite Cannonball recordings. He kills on that record with Milt Jackson. An interesting (for me) personal story: In the summer of 1975 (was about to start college) I was in a record store in Miami, Fla with a short stack of records under my arm. The local Jazz radio station was playing and the DJ announced that Cannonball had just died. That record was one of the five or six under my arm.

Another of the records under my arm, and on the subject of West Coast players, one of my favorite West Coast saxophone players. A very swinging player that goes under the radar way too often:

https://youtu.be/pERO8m_9sIU

https://youtu.be/2joWrHSsNUY

https://youtu.be/V9eNtsqfpzQ

https://youtu.be/IzveIxkjApo

Btw, the above third and fourth clips in particular, would never be referred to as “blowing sessions”. Characteristic of much of West Coast Jazz there is an emphasis on interesting, sometimes intricate, arrangements and compositions.

Speaking of West Coast Jazz, Pryso’s “cheesecake” and Rok’s love of great album covers (more Herb Geller”:

https://youtu.be/gfGKqERBRLk

     Speaking of Herb Geller and Christmas. Merry Christmas to all!:

      https://youtu.be/P7meYOaEmVU

Obviously ,Your personal life effects what you like in Music . I will buy anything made by anybody if it its something I heard with my late wife .
rok, were you serious about that pop junk ?

While not written specifically
for Christmas this is one you hear a lot this time of year  in praise of God  here in USA's ground
zero  of choir music .
This IMO is the  most profound single religious piece ever written by an American.The  Belgium choir sounds like they were shot down from heaven just for this recording !
https://youtu.be/fRL447oDId4?t=6

There is something about Grant Green's music that resonates with my sub-conscious; when I hear his music, I hear St. Louis when I was young, when St. Louis was St. Louis. When I freely roamed a fascinating city where you could find like minded people whose company you enjoyed.

Grant Green belonged to St. Louis before he belonged to the world, he was one of us before he ever recorded his first LP. Unlike Miles Davis, who left early, and went to New York, and never came back, they had a hard time getting Grant Green to leave. We heard Grant at various small local lounges before he was famous, and it wasn't like he was playing to entertain us, but he was playing his music for Grant Green, and we were there enjoying the music he was playing for himself.

As I listen to this music, my mind is flooded with images of nights enjoying Grants music with friends in our most special lounge where Grant appeared professionally on the weekends, and sometime in the middle of the week he dropped in. This lounge was like his home away from home. I recall one such off night, when he came in and just played to himself while we listened; he played awhile and left. That was in 1959, just before I went into the Air Force.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqNhx5TYn-g&list=RDXqNhx5TYn-g&start_radio=1


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZl0rreNtw


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR9TSccJuAo


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDfFjsUN8e4


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugFD8jjAcw

Rok, I forgot to add the most important part; still in basic training, can not leave the base.

Alex, the year is 1959, the place is Lackland AFB; it's not like you look in the paper and see what's on; it's like you and your jazz running buddy decide how to spend "offduty" time. The movies are a place to go, who cares what's on; it costs next to nothing (base movie theater). By word of mouth, someone said this movie had a boss soundtrack, let's check it out.

The West Coast happened to be where they made movies, and it also happened to be where that type of jazz originated in that time frame. Movies had to have some type of music; that meant they had to have musicians. When these musicians were given the chance to strut their stuff, that's what they did.

These were not blockbuster movies, they were grade "B" black and white movies. Rok, chime in here and let these people know what going to the base movie theater is about, and what movies you saw that you can't remember seeing.

Schubert,

I must have overlooked your Anita o'Day posts. She had an incredible voice with impeccable timing and no "showing off" just class personified even while having on and off substance abuse problems

orpheus10,

I stated in my post the sonics are very good on the Blackhawk box set. As a matter of fact buy the box set for 20 dollars and if you think its "compressed" (its not) then I will buy it from you at the original cost and I will pay shipping as well.

orpheus10,

If your not a Shelly Manne fan then I have other West Coast Jazz suggestions.

Harold Land and Carmel Jones "Complete Studio Recordings" or one of the many albums by Curtis Counce.

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Studio-Recordings-Harold-Land/dp/B000JBWWKG/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?keyword...

https://www.amazon.com/You-More-Bounce-Curtis-Counce/dp/B00PIFMNYS/ref=tmm_vnl_swatch_0?_encoding=UT...

Some of the Popular stuff is quite good.   Some.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhoptlvpNmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgrmhpB0dUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbz8bhHvIjM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA44kLu_VB0

Cheers

Pjw, what makes you think that I'm unaware of what you posted by Shelly Manne?


    https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+aficionado&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS858US858&oq=definit...



Before I buy any boxed set, I'll have to make certain it's not "compressed"; if the price is too good, there is that possibility.

alex,

I have Shelly Manne's "Complete At The Manhole" both LP's were recorded on 1 disc.

I agree about Anita , posted her several times with no replies . That's life .

I can do a lot of things that a lot of people can't do Alex.

orpheus10,

Do you have something against Shelly Manne?

I just posted on top of this page some essential West Coast Jazz since you stated you wanted to get more of it.

BTW Shelly Manne worked regularly for Hollywood on movie and TV soundtracks.

Well I see we agree on Anita o' Day

alex,

Here is the version I have:

https://www.discogs.com/Shelly-Manne-His-Men-Complete-Live-At-The-Black-Hawk/release/4044381

The 4 discs have a total of 26 songs. The majority of them are extended play over 10 minutes and 1 song is 20 minutes.

V1 has 6 songs
V2 has 4 songs
V3 has 4 songs
V4 has 5 songs
V5 has 6 songs


It would seem the box set has 1 extra song that did not appear on the original 5 LP's

rok , I am well aware of what Legion did in Indo-China .
Saw a lot of destroyed French gear with my own eyes . My Pathfinders slept inside a huge old abandoned French Mansion miles OUT SIDE the 1st Cav perimeter if we had a mission next day because there were Vietnam eyes in side it that knew North from South .
My idea , I got a pat on the back for it , the Major that patted it would have got a Bronze . That’s life .
Also, Legion is just an integrated  Division of the French Army and has everything the rest of that well trained  and equipped Army has .
 A close Brig. General friend of mine was in A'gan several times and told me the Legionaires were the best commo guys of anybody .  Reason , same as two-thousand years ago, DISCIPLINE !!!

alex,

On the Blackhawk box set it states it is the entire 5 volume set on 4 discs which could be easily done since LP's were usually 20 -25 minutes per side and each of the 4 discs can contain up to 80 minutes of recordings

I will look into it further but the 4 disc set for 20 bucks is a steal.

Shelly Manne at the Blackhawk are issued on 5 albums, not sure if that all is on that box set.

Also, there are two albums with Shelly Manne at his men (different line up) at the Manne Hole that I can recommend also, here are few links

https://youtu.be/0KsxRIrDefA
https://youtu.be/yO7n-sOj2WI

Few more albums from artist that played on those two mentioned sessions

Joe Gordon ’Looking good’ album (played trumpet on SM at the Blackhawk)

https://youtu.be/ApF5K9WX6Oo
https://youtu.be/lvvioVIyJTk

Richie Kamuca quartet (sax on SM at the Blackhawk)
https://youtu.be/vJ-vN_Lh5_0

Victor Feldman ’Merry olde soul’ album (piano at the BH)
https://youtu.be/oqX3Fx4Pjz4

Conte Candoli Quartet (trumpet on SM at the Manne Hole)
https://youtu.be/jr60NjlGvCQ
https://youtu.be/J5aeWdqrBbs


Orpheus, somehow I cant split a soundtrack from a movie. If its a good film, I will certainly notice the music, but I cant remeber any soundtrack from a movie that I did not like

Pryso, these are the links I posted two days ago that no one commented on, maybe you or someone else can comment on them today.



        https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/best-jazz-soundtracks/


        http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2015/the-20-best-jazz-soundtracks-in-movie-history/

Pjw, there is no such thing as too much Anita O' Day, have fun; here's one of my favorites;


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vN3UfVuQV8

Apparently I have been grossly misunderstood; is it my fault or yours. Let us examine the sentence where the trolley jumped the tracks.

"As I stated before, the best examples were movie sound tracks. Since the black and white movies were forgettable, I may not have any luck finding the soundtracks."


The black and white movies were "B" movies and I don't recall a single one of them, but the soundtracks were fantastic.

Now how pryso interpreted that as "all" black and white movies are forgettable, I don't know? Never the less, moving right along.

My all time favorite movie happens to be "black and white"; "The Third Man".


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yyDEDGlr0



          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ZWcwy12lk

BTW pryso, I was trying to illustrate the black leotards that were quite the fashion statement at that time for ladies who had the required figure, and the link stated "cheese cake".

What a difference real musicians make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2o-iDeCd50&list=RDk3C9L6VzOdY&index=10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3C9L6VzOdY&list=RDk3C9L6VzOdY&index=1   

Cheers

Speaking of female jazz vocalist's. I do not think Anita o'Day gets enough recognition here. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHCaxVCXNIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mg9pGqo6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjLYoTR8cDE

Schubert,
Edith Piaf: Diva indeed.

Thinkin’ the same. She was great. So small but again, big.

Hold me close
and hold me fast
this magic spell you cast
this is La Vie En Rose

— Edith Piaf – La Vien En Rose

I am a big movie collector myself and some of the greatest releases are black and white.

Alex, this is your subject too.

orpheus10,

"The West Coast Sound" volume 1 by Shelly Manne is another in my collection that I consider a "must have" for a jazz aficionado and one of the finest examples of West Coast Jazz. If you cant find it on Amazon try discogs. Here is the All music review:

https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-west-coast-sound-vol-1-mw0000653139

pryso, 

I am a big movie collector myself and some of the greatest releases are black and white.

Two of my personal favorites are "The Hustler" (Paul Newman) and "On The Waterfront" (Marlon Brando).

orpheus10,

Just buy the 4 disc box set "Shelly Manne & His Men" Live at the Blackhawk. It is a great representation of West Coast Jazz and one of my favorite albums in my collection

Here is a song from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCaN2irGItA

The complete 4 disc box set was just reissued last year. I would jump on it now for the 20 bucks before its OOP.

I have the original 4 disc set released many years back and then it was selling for astronomical prices a couple years later when it was OOP. I am sure this latest reissue used the same masters that my set has and the sonics are great. This box set is a "must have" for any jazz aficionado.

Here is the link to buy it don’t miss out!!

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Live-At-Black-Hawk/dp/B07C27FXXH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=shelly+manne+an...

o10, I don’t agree that black and white films were necessarily forgettable. The list of great ones is long, beginning with one which many consider the best movie of all time -- "Citizen Kane". But I’m a movie buff as well as jazz aficionado.

Back to the subject at hand, movie soundtracks, how about this B&W film example, scored and performed by Duke Ellington. For those not aware it was based on a true story and filmed on location in the UP of Michigan.  So not West Coast. ;^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntm7j6R1G0&list=PLMD9X0rJLX6ayC62PJ_VsDdBfmCBSnnQk

Pjw, I saw the movie when it came out, and that is one of the best examples of West Coast jazz. Maybe I can find something to compete with that.

As I stated before, the best examples were movie sound tracks. Since the black and white movies were forgettable, I may not have any luck finding the soundtracks.

Some of the best West Coast on this soundtrack for the Susan Hayward movie "I want To Live" one of my first jazz purchases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVhURQDFJoc

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The most real of all the real divas who ever lived gang .

https://youtu.be/50DD04JELHo?t=2


rok, I saw Rep 2 jump once , PERFECT drop ! .







rok , if they have a" once one , always one ," contest .


This is my entry .
https://youtu.be/TESCaD-iZQE?t=4
Should have made it my Plan B .
I would of had no problem either .

o10, this is what I think of for "cheesecake", those dancers just didn't do it -
http://www.thepinupfiles.com/vargas1.html

Now for West Coast jazz, here is one of the classics -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm-jwUixCaQ

Interesting that Baker remained "cool" while Mulligan could join in with East Coast hard boppers and keep up just fine.

That's a good argument, pryso. :--))

Laughing here. Don’t worry Your Highness, I won’t attack Croatia. Not that they don’t deserve it, but out of respect for the Queen of Jazz.

:--)) You are merciful in almost a royal way.

Speaking of Cannonball...
https://youtu.be/s4rXEKtC8iY

Pryso, that music you submitted was a real treat for me, I have very little West Coast in my collection, and most certainly not the best.

West Coast came and went very fast. One must have the ability to go back in time to when it was current to thoroughly enjoy it. Instead of "Hippies", the people of that genre were called "Beatniks"; it's like almost everything happened in the late 50's and ended in the very early 60's, that's a short life span.

My favorite was "Bud Shank", him and Bob Cooper made albums together. This was my favorite album by Bud Shank, I still have it, but it's too scratched to consider.


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7b6O02gYEs


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzOJcQso8Y8


The hippest and most exotic ladies wore "Black Leotards"; only those with the best figures could make the cut.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dv4TNJIX7g