I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
There are a lot of excellent players in this old folks home band . Obviously , they don't go to College in the commonly used way . https://youtu.be/e6zUWugF5oA?t=3
Frogman , No, it was a clip of Sonny playing "" A Foggy Day ’" where his swing home really shown , so natch, I was all in on that . Can’t find it today . The thing that years ago that was always bringing me back to Sonny was listening to a conversation and talking back , literally !
"Right , ya man . bring it on , etc etc etc etc etc . " Mingus is the only other jazz guy I talk to .
Blaxploitation movies. What a waste. When I think of what could have been done. Much of the music was a waste also. Some good stuff outside of Jazz. WAR for instance. Great(est) pop band ever?? EW&F also.
Where on Earth did you see me posting War? I told you so many times that you should wipe your glasses. :p I will borrow you mine microfiber cloth. It’s working when you use it. I posted Final Comedown, Grant Green. I do not mind the movie here, just music. And do not consider that it is waste. Although it is more funky than anything else of Grant, I like it. If Grant would take a pencil and try to play on it, I would probably like it too. It’s Grant. He knows what he is doing. However, another pair of shoes is the fact that Grant barely features on the album apart from the title track...:--) :D Nevertheless, it’s kind of funny music.
Strings and Cannonball: I found the problem, and it is me. I listened to all the tracks this time, on some, track 3 on to the end, the strings and Cannonball seem more integrated. The first two tracks, the strings struck me just gratuitous 'lushness'(if this is a word), to make Cannonball sound mo' better, or appeal to a 'wider audience'. But after listening to them all, very nice indeed. The Frogman is always correct. I think that's in The Bible also.
Before making a statement like that, first get your facts straight re what’s what; not to mention my feelings about Wynton. I think it is someone else, currently pouting, who is the leader of that faction. I have been very complimentary of some of Wynton’s many talents.
Now, re your comment. You said “strings ALWAYS make everything smooth and mellow”. Not so. String sections can have very different characters; including in Jazz settings.
**** Composing a piece that includes Jazz players and Strings, is different from (Jazz player) with strings. ****
Huh? I think I know what you mean. But here’s the point. There is fundamentally no difference in the role of the strings in the Cannonball/strings arrangements and the Getz/Focus (and Wynton) arrangements other than style and level of complexity of the writing. In all cases there is a Jazz soloist with strings playing in a supporting role at some points in the arrangement and in a lead role in others. Also in all cases, the soloist plays the composed part as well as improvises (Jazz).
Listen to the Cannonball record again. When you hear strings, imagine it is a piano player playing the exact same parts instead. Object then? Its like having a bias against, say, the clarinet. Kinda silly. It’s not the “sound” is the instrument(s) that matters most, but what it is playing.
Not close. No cigar. Composing a piece that includes Jazz players and Strings, is different from (Jazz player) with strings.
Can it be that The Frogman, leader of Jazz' anti-Wynton faction, is using Wynton, to make his points?? Down in Mississippi, they would say Lawd, Lawd!!
Blaxploitation movies. What a waste. When I think of what could have been done. Much of the music was a waste also. Some good stuff outside of Jazz. WAR for instance. Great(est) pop band ever?? EW&F also.
Interesting in that Cannonball doesn’t play with his usual urgency and front of the beat vibe.
But, not surprising. Strings makes everything smooth and mellow. I hear strings, I think of how they ruined Nate Cole's music. But beautiful Cannonball nevertheless.
This is in honor of a VERY important Lady , Dame Vera Lynn on her passing at the age of 103 years .
I like to think God gave her so many years because she sang this song throughout WWII to the many millions of all the Allied Armies , Soldiers , Sailors and Airman as well to the other millions of sweet-hearts waiting for them .
I kid you not , it meant more than the National Anthem . I doubt if any song was ever was or ever will be sung or heard as many times over the air-waves . A billion times would be a conservative estimate .
Hank Jones -- AIN'T MISBEHAVIN' with / Richard Davis(b), Roy Haynes(d), Bob Ojeda(tp), Teddy Edwards(ts & cl), Kenny Burrell(g).
Notes: "Waller was a great life force, his playing and composing were brimming with vitality. The wit, the energy, the class, and sheer joyfulness of his performances constantly inspire jazz players of all styles." - Murray Horwitz
I have no idea what happened. Everything I know is there for everyone to see on this and the “other thread”. If O-10 (or Rok?) would like to fill us in it would be appreciated.
O-10, as always, I hope you reconsider. Best wishes.
Mary-Jo, this is my very last time posting; you don 't know what happened, but Rok and Frogman know what happened, and I guarantee you it will never happen again.
Being deep in Swiss, the signal can be a bit weaker now and then, so I can lose the point.
If you think about the compliments, I really see no indiscretion in that, it was nice of you.
Listened to this last last night; one of my faves. I can never understand the knee jerk reaction that some have to strings in Jazz. The “sound” of the instrument(s) doesn’t matter nearly as much as what it (they) is playing. Gorgeous arrangements and, for me, some of the most beautiful and suave alto saxophone playing on record. Interesting in that Cannonball doesn’t play with his usual urgency and front of the beat vibe.
“Final Comedown”. Interesting factoid: first soundtrack album released by Bluenote Records. Makes me wish I could grow an Afro (I hope that doesn’t upset any censors out there). So 70’s!
Hey Mary_Jo, apology for my earlier indiscretion; all in good fun. I have a feeling you can handle it.
Wycliffe Gordon “Dreams” !!! Great vibe all around. Loved it. Great clarinet player on the date. This is one to get. If not too much trouble I would like to know on which of the posted tracks Wycliffe plays trumpet on instead of trombone. Searched for actual per track personnel info and couldn’t find it.
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Still, I am not sure how to behave from now on, this was quite inconsiderate act from audiogon. Simple and kind warning should have been enough. We are not kids, ok, maybe Rok only, but the rest of us would have surely understood the message. :-)
This is a good question. I say continue as normal. If start we acting different the thread won't be worth continuing. We all know what The Bible says about 'Moderators'.
And yes, it was very inconsiderate of Audiogon. That's why I suspect foul play.
Music of New Orleans circa 1919, as the notes say.. Not the New Orleans I had in mind when I bought this. But, it turned out to be an excellent CD. It's a Chesky recording so SQ is excellent.
The band is from NYC, a sure red flag had I been able to read the notes beforehand. Other worrying tidbits from the booklet: "Michael Dease on slide and valve trombones, tenor and baritone saxes and trumpet .... and Juilliard-trained Ibanda Ruhumbika on tuba..."
Oh well, in spite of all that, these guys can play. Of course Wycliffe is Wycliffe.
Yes, Mary_Jo, that is what I was talking about; a post that was also deleted. Personally, I consider the posts deleted over the years ample warning. As I recently told my upset kid (son), sometimes it’s best to kill them (Agon) with kindness instead of indignation. Works both ways; and it did work. I’m glad our happy little family is back.
Btw, I do like “fro”. Please don’t shoot the messenger 😊
You teach your son well. I do agree with you but sometimes my bad temper overpowers me, although I've been known as diplomatic type. It should be other way around, hasty when young, reasonable and more calm when older. I mixed up something.
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