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Can’t think of many players deserving this much attention. Great Cannonball survey! Thanks! Probably my favorite alto player. Here’s one not posted yet: https://youtu.be/D821Atw0HwQ |
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Julian "Cannonball" Adderley Cannonball(alto), Nat(cornet), Lateef(tenor, flute, oboe), Zawinul(piano), Jones(bass), Hayes(drums) THE CANNONBALL ADDERLEY SEXTET IN NEW YORK Notes: "The saga of Cannonball Adderley's band, which has unquestionably been one of the most dazzling success stories in modern Jazz history, has been highlighted by recording sessions of the most "modern" kind--on-the-job, in-the-club albums that have only become possible because of the improved tape-recording and microphone techniques and equipment of recent years. -- Keepnews Riverside 1962 / 2008 gemini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPv1HnliyPwdizzy's business https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WgxMVWKXx4scotch and water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-dhZF9HLUCheers |
but they do seem to be stuck in a rut lately.
some of us are stuck in Jazz. Some others have broken free. Cheers |
BTW, Cannonball is the greatest; never to far out, never to near in, but just right.
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Inna my friend, I was just thinking about you; that's one of my all time favorite tunes. It wasn't so far out that they should not have got it, but they do seem to be stuck in a rut lately. The jazz they keep repeating hasn't been on my play list for some time. It was nice of you to send something fresh. I've got a real wild version of that tune, but I can't find it; this will have to do, Send some more tunes that you've been into. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc |
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Never heard of Real Gone. Thanks for the tip. |
@tyray,
I have The Black Messiah on lp from back in the day. Cannot find it on CD. I even checked the Real Gone Music site. The search continues.
Thanks
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@roktoid,
My man, love me some Cannonball Adderley
The Black Messiah is a live album by jazz saxophonist Cannonball Adderley recorded at The Troubadour in Los Angeles, California in 1971 featuring performances by Adderley’s Quintet with Nat Adderley, George Duke, Walter Booker and Roy McCurdy with guest appearances by Airto Moreira, Mike Deasy, Ernie Watts, Alvin Batiste, and Buck Clarke.[3] After many years of being out of print, The Black Messiah was reissued in 2014 by Real Gone Music; the new 2CD reissue included liner notes by music journalist/blogger Bill Kopp.
Check it out y’all. This is where I first heard the young George Duke and the Brazilian Airto Moreira. |
Cannonball Adderley Sextet Cannonball(alto), Nat(cornet), Charles Lloyd(tenor, flute), Joe Zawinul(piano), Sam Jones(bass), Louis Hayes(drums) CANNONBALL ADDERLEY'S FIDDLER ON THE ROOF Capitol Jazz 1964 Notes: " 'Fiddler on the Roof', ... opened on Broadway on September 22, 1964 with the larger-than-life Zero Mostel in the title role. Only a month later, on October 19, alto saxophonist Cannonball Adderley, a kind of larger-than-life character himself, took his sextet into the studio to record an album of selections from the soon to be world renowned musical. Cannonball was prescient -- he had realized not only the social and historical significance of the show but also the fact that it contained some very special music that would lend itself to the kind of appealing improvisations with which he and his band members dazzled audiences and won over new listeners to Jazz." to life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fChkHmHcU5Ysabbath prayer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWY8tyNlzAchavalah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhkIU2-RAiQmatchmaker, matchmaker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlmSDrrwqi4Cheers |
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Julian "Cannonball" Adderley Cannonball(alto), Nat Adderley(cornet), Yusef Lateef(tenor), Charles Lloyd(tenor), Joe Zawinul(piano), Sam Jones(bass), Louis Hayes(drums), THE BEST OF CANNONBALL ADDERLEY THE CAPITOL YEARS Notes: "Like Horace Silver or Jimmy Smith, Cannonball's brand of funk was never simplistic or condescending. It was pure and sincere and intelligent. His vibrant alto saxophone rang true. And his repertoire never abandoned the qualities that make Jazz varied and great. Here then are the anthems of a man who spread the word of Jazz more than anyone except Louis Armstrong." the jive samba https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qxvNeKt4UEwork song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVZiwxr-Qs74 miles away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-CgZFdtDgfiddler on the roof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhw22yQnnBoVictor Gaskin(bass), Roy McCordy(drums) Cheers |
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pjw, glad you liked “Sareen Jurer”. We’ll have to agree to disagree about the length of the bass solo, however.
frogman I have no problem with the above. And I will not at all try to debate with a veteran musician such as yourself about the length of the bass solo in a trio. Actually I thank you for pointing out the reasons why the bass solo in Sareen Jurer is as long as it is and that a bass solo is determined by the measures in the sheet music (which is Chinese Calligraphy to me).
(6) Red Garland, Ron Carter, Philly Joe Jones - Crossings (1977). - YouTube
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pjw, glad you liked “Sareen Jurer”. We’ll have to agree to disagree about the length of the bass solo, however. Bill Evan’s trios were always unique in, first of all, pioneering the “conversational” style of trio playing. IOW, all the players in the trio “converse” with each other throughout, as opposed to the bass and drums being just (or mostly) time keepers for the piano player; and all are fairly equal protagonists. The bass player always got ample time to solo. In the past, bass players were much more limited as soloists than piano or horn players were and this was the main reason that bass solos tended to be short, if they soloed at all. The bass player that blew the door wide open with the ability to play extended solos at the same level as a piano player was Scott Lafaro also of Bill Evans trio fame, as I’m sure you know. Eddie Gomez continued that tradition. Back to “Sareen Jurer”: You seem to be saying that simply because it is a bass solo that it should be shorter than the other solos. First of all, the length of a player’s solo is governed by the length of the tune and how many choruses the player plays. A player typically plays an entire chorus of the tune or multiple choruses. Often, the number of choruses that a player plays is not predetermined and is (assuming there are no time constraints) determined instead by the trio’s collective sense that the soloist still has more to say. Except for Blues tunes which are typically 12 measures long, the vast majority of Jazz tunes are 32 measures long; iow, a chorus is 32 measures. “Sareen Jurer” is kind of a crazy tune and a very unusual Jazz tune, it is 68 measures long; very long tune by any standard. Eddie Gomez soloed for just one chorus of the tune; in keeping with standard practice. I happen to think he plays a very interesting solo on that tune and to play only part of a chorus would be musically awkward. https://www.sheetmusicnow.com/products/sareen-jurer-p403388 |
rok I do not have Cannonball in Europe.
Thanks for posting that I listened to the songs and now I have another disc I need to buy. I would say its a "must have" if you like Cannonball.
The WWII story was good as well.
BTW roc the civilians of Belgium suffered a lot during the Germans Ardennes offensive in December 1944. The SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte murdered over 100 civilians in the village of Stavelot and the surrounding areas as well as the over 80 American G.I.’s at Malmedy which I’m sure you already know.
Comblain-La-Tour looks to be about 50 km west of Stavelot so Brooklyn born Joe Napoli was in a safer village not near the front lines. The Germans never made it over the Meuse River bridges.
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frogman I like
"Sareen Jurer" by Evans and co. but the bass solo that starts around 3:20 and ends around 4:50 is a little too long and "heavy" (harsh?) considering the trio context that it is a part of.
I have a lot of trio discs and usually the bass solo, if there is one, is under a minute or so depending on the length of the song and its played with a very soft touch.
Other then the bass solo
"Sareen Jurer" was really good. I don't think Evans ever played and recorded anything that was not above average and mostly really good.
I am partial to this disc I have with Ray Brown on bass.
(5) Bill Evans Bass Face - YouTube
(5) A Child Is Born - YouTube
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Julian "Cannonball" Adderley Sextet Cannonball(alto sax), Nat Adderley(cornet), Yusef Lateef(Tenor, flute, oboe), Joe Zawinul(piano), Sam Jones(bass), Louis Hayes(drums) CANNONBALL IN EUROPE Notes: "The international Jazz festival in Comblain-La-Tour was the first big open-air Jazz festival in Europe and one of the few to ever be broadcast on television. Joe Napoli, a Brooklyn-born soldier who fought in the Battle of the Bulge, wandered into town in December 1944 looking for a little comfort and relief. He never forgot the kindness extended to him by strangers and revisited Comblain-La-Tour in 1955. Joe had become a manager and booking agent; when he learned the town needed funds in 1959 to rebuild its church, he came up with the idea of creating a Jazz festival." Comblain-La-Tour is in Belgium. The 1962 festival drew 42,000 people. gemini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pUKEqpHGA8trouble in mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-kHVq0TVMI kept waiting for "Cleanhead" to start singing. work song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lukMc2WDFdsdizzy's business https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4JFB7cIA3EYosuf Lateef makes it an entirely different group. Cheers |
Nice clip. Interesting interview of a great drummer. A while back I posted about one of the several times that I went to hear Bill Evans at the Vanguard and he was auditioning drummers. This was in the late 70’s/early 80s and I don’t know if that week was when Zigmund also auditioned, but it was Eddie Gomez on bass. The night I was there he auditioned Bob Moses; presumably to replace the great Joe LaBarbera. I remember that Moses played only two tunes before LaBarbera came back on the set. Zigmund mentions he played the whole set and got the gig. . Moses played two tunes ☹️. (I remember he sounded ok, but.....) Magical music: https://youtu.be/KJR5emhtMXo |
Eliot Zigmund
legendary American Jazz Drummer known for playing with Bill Evans, Jim Hall, Chet Baker, Stan Getz (and so many others), is on this week's episode of Gone In 30 Minutes, describes auditioning for Bill Evans at the Village Vanguard in front of a live audience, the experience of gigging 5-6 gigs nights per week, and the art of playing with the incomparable Vince Guaraldi... https://youtu.be/66q3U2Bcfu4 |
Great stuff by Cannonball and Lateef, from the Fatherland. The uber-mensch went from goose-stepping to be-boping without missing a beat. Amazing!
And to know that just 20 years before that jazz music was on the Nazi's list of forbidden pleasures in Germany. If the SS came to your house you had better have a framed picture of Hitler on the wall, a copy of Mein Kampf on the coffee table, and all your Jazz LP's hidden away. It was also a good thing to have an LP set of Wagners orchestrations next to your phonograph. This was one year after Hitler became dictator of Germany
(5) Swing in Nazi Berlin - James Kok Tanzorch., 1934 - YouTube
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pjw,
Great stuff by Cannonball and Lateef, from the Fatherland. The uber-mensch went from goose-stepping to be-boping without missing a beat. Amazing!
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