Thanks for the report, and I'm glad to see you're enjoying your JOR!
Jadis Orchestra Reference + Wilsons
With the help of some advice from several audiogon members, along with protracted auditions, I recently purchased the Jadis OR integrated amp - a month on I thought I'd provide some feedback, and see how this squares with others' experience.
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The amp is driving Wilson CUBs and replaced an ARC D125 & SP9MkIII. In comparison with the old, the Jadis does an even better job with the mids and highs, with neutrality and detail, and terrific imaging - I wouldn't describe the sound as obviously 'warm', but just natural; in contrast to the ARCs the soundstage seems to sit further back, and there are fewer 'hi-fi' effects, with cymbals resolutely staying within the confines of the drum kit, rather than launching themselves forward into the vicinity of my sofa. Bass was lifelike in classical pieces, but lacked punch and control in plucked acoustic settings (jazz) and with pop/funk - the Wilsons have little response below 50Hz, but the ARCs gave the illusion that there was more bass there while the Jadis left that area blank, and seemed to give a woolliness to the upper bass. The answer proved to be a sub, so a REL StormIII now squats in a corner of the room. With this, unsurprisingly, the bass is the best it has ever been - what's more, the overall tone feels fuller and well-balanced, while previously the JOR's delicacy verged on sounding too light.
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I also auditioned, twice for several hours at a time, the JOR with Wilson Sophias. The bass was still an issue, the problem again being control (although this was only evident on extremely bass heavy tracks) and weight - the latter rendering any track a little 'thin'. Apparently another of the store's clients actually runs this combination at home. I couldn't help thinking a sub would improve things here too. In passing, the Sophias did sound fantastic, with more definition than the CUBs, although I found the tone similar - unexpectedly, given the reviews here and elsewhere remarking on the Sophia's sweetness in contrast to the CUBs (alleged) 'brightness'; the extra resolution, while generally involving and enjoyable, did no favours for older recordings or poor transfers. Overall, I can't imagine Wilson is selling many CUB IIs, with stands, given the marginal price differential with the Sophias, but, for me, the changeover price is substantial and not prudent now. One of the store's staff members sat and listened for some time and he commented that the Sophias sounded as good as they had with larger amplifiers, including a Jadis Defy7MkIV/preamp combo and Gryphon Antileons, as long as the volume was kept to not unreasonable levels.
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At home, the JOR took at least a week of running-in to approach its best sound - not long thereafter a KT90 started crackling so the store, rather extravagantly, took it upon themselves to change all the tubes, at their expense - so the running-in continues. I've also removed the tube cage as this was quietly ringing, presumably from vibrations inherent in the tubes.
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In sum, I'm very happy with the JOR. It seems like a real bargain - all the other amps I auditioned were far more expensive, even second hand. Thanks to those who commented previously, and look forward to hearing more. Cheers, Rob.
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The amp is driving Wilson CUBs and replaced an ARC D125 & SP9MkIII. In comparison with the old, the Jadis does an even better job with the mids and highs, with neutrality and detail, and terrific imaging - I wouldn't describe the sound as obviously 'warm', but just natural; in contrast to the ARCs the soundstage seems to sit further back, and there are fewer 'hi-fi' effects, with cymbals resolutely staying within the confines of the drum kit, rather than launching themselves forward into the vicinity of my sofa. Bass was lifelike in classical pieces, but lacked punch and control in plucked acoustic settings (jazz) and with pop/funk - the Wilsons have little response below 50Hz, but the ARCs gave the illusion that there was more bass there while the Jadis left that area blank, and seemed to give a woolliness to the upper bass. The answer proved to be a sub, so a REL StormIII now squats in a corner of the room. With this, unsurprisingly, the bass is the best it has ever been - what's more, the overall tone feels fuller and well-balanced, while previously the JOR's delicacy verged on sounding too light.
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I also auditioned, twice for several hours at a time, the JOR with Wilson Sophias. The bass was still an issue, the problem again being control (although this was only evident on extremely bass heavy tracks) and weight - the latter rendering any track a little 'thin'. Apparently another of the store's clients actually runs this combination at home. I couldn't help thinking a sub would improve things here too. In passing, the Sophias did sound fantastic, with more definition than the CUBs, although I found the tone similar - unexpectedly, given the reviews here and elsewhere remarking on the Sophia's sweetness in contrast to the CUBs (alleged) 'brightness'; the extra resolution, while generally involving and enjoyable, did no favours for older recordings or poor transfers. Overall, I can't imagine Wilson is selling many CUB IIs, with stands, given the marginal price differential with the Sophias, but, for me, the changeover price is substantial and not prudent now. One of the store's staff members sat and listened for some time and he commented that the Sophias sounded as good as they had with larger amplifiers, including a Jadis Defy7MkIV/preamp combo and Gryphon Antileons, as long as the volume was kept to not unreasonable levels.
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At home, the JOR took at least a week of running-in to approach its best sound - not long thereafter a KT90 started crackling so the store, rather extravagantly, took it upon themselves to change all the tubes, at their expense - so the running-in continues. I've also removed the tube cage as this was quietly ringing, presumably from vibrations inherent in the tubes.
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In sum, I'm very happy with the JOR. It seems like a real bargain - all the other amps I auditioned were far more expensive, even second hand. Thanks to those who commented previously, and look forward to hearing more. Cheers, Rob.
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