Isolation transformer question


I know people who say they have bad power, and want to buy an isolation transformer.

When it comes to audio improvements, what will an isolation transformer do that all of the transformers in your gear aren't already doing?

(I'm not talking about "power conditioners" which include many things like filter capacitors, inductors, and so on)

clustrocasual

You need to know that isolation transformers hum. I threw out a 2kv Soundtrapper isolation transformer because the noise of the hum more than counter-acted any perceived benefit to the electronics’ noise floor

lloydc

You need to know that isolation transformers hum.

 

Mine don’t.

If there’s a hum, that most likely indicates that there’s a gremlin somewhere else in the circuitry. Possibly a grounding issue.   Yet, poorly made transformers can hum - if the windings are uneven or if the lamination deteriorates.

@ steakster, you are fortunate.  It is my understanding that the larger the iso transformer, the more likely it is to hum.  IME, there is always some hum on very large whole-house transformers, but they are located outside or in their own room, far from a listening room.  They could be very useful (I think @whart and M Fremer had some installed). I had two "audiophile" transformers, and kept the smaller one (which I use on front-end components with no problems).

A cursory search on Google confirms that transformers hum by nature, e.g: 

"There are actually multiple causes of transformer noise. The main one is the Magnetostriction Effect. This is when the current that flows through the transformer’s coils creates a magnetic field. The magnetic field then changes the dimensions of the transformer’s iron core. The core expands and contracts with the alternating current, which causes a humming sound."  Landmark Electric Inc.

Perhaps one based on a toroid would hum less?

There’s no attempt in this discussion to distinguish among isolation transformers vs isolation transformers plus regulation and/or additional filtering using caps and inductors vs just a box of HD caps and inductors that filter only vs AC regenerators, which are actually amplifiers designed to take in wall AC, convert it to DC, then output it as 60 Hz at 120V (or variants thereof). These are 4 kinds of very different devices. 
 

I use an AC regenerator on my basement Beveridge speaker system because the AC down there is contaminated by utilities, and it’s made a difference. On my Sound Lab system I use a small PS Audio regenerator just to feed the ESL bias supplies. That was a serendipitous discovery. Anyone who thinks the linear PSs built into our gear are universally well designed and deliver perfect DC ought to invest in an oscilloscope.

@lewm That is why I said, "well designed".  Sure, there is a lot of equipment that cut corners to keep the price down. However, I once thought the very basic bias supplies on our ESLs would benefit from refined power. I tried it and it made no difference. I moved the transformer to my line level equipment and it made no difference, so I sold it. The most sensitive piece of equipment, my phono stage, is powered by batteries and is isolated from the line during play.