Interesting ASR review of small GR Research speaker kit

Ok, so this has become an overall evaluation of Amir’s approach or Amir. Agon is an open forum, so do whatever. I’m not interested in ad hominem attacks on Amir or on objectivism etc. I’m interested in his claims. If you are too, I’d be curious what stood out, right or wrong about those claims. Otherwise, empty your clips or whatever; I’ll be elsewhere.

Oh, just looked at thread on video. Apparently, GR has updated their video, admitted to some errors, doubled down on others. This is all about the details in the video, so be warned.

FWIW, it’s the specific arguments and observations made in the video which caught my attention. I'm interested in kits, actually.

Some of you are seeing what I see. Others are just issuing more broadsides against Amir and ASR and measurement in general. Or singing paeans to how your system makes you feel, measurements be damned. Interesting — shows how audio is both scientific and religious, depending on the particular audiophile. 

For my own part, what I liked about this video — and some of the stuff on Audioholics, too — is that they go through a topic and says, "There is this issue, and here's the evidence and the conclusion….and now there is this *other* issue, etc." They may go ahead an add all that evidence up and give a product evaluation, overall, too. But what is important to me is each separate piece of evidence.

I have learned a lot from technical information about speakers, amps, etc. I have learned a lot by listening. The notion that I would throw out an entire class of methodology just because there are *some* who are measurement-only (or listening-only) zealots is ridiculous. I'd prefer Jefferson's approach to the Bible — cut out the speculative metaphysics and leave the sensible stuff. You don't throw out the whole Bible because you think the afterlife and sin stuff is just B.S.

FYI, it looks like (a) Darko has respect for Amir and (b) Darko reports that Amir is not the absolutist objectivist that some think he is. FWIW. 

@johnah5 

Regarding your bible comment, why would you not toss the entire thing out if you find some parts are not believable/true?…If some aren't true then how do you know any are true?  

No, because not all claims are dependent on the truth of other claims. 

I have a mechanic who believes the Covid virus has microchips in it planted there by Bill Gates. He is paranoid, ill informed about politics, and allows his perception of facts to be twisted by ideology. In this subject matter, he's not credible.

He also thinks that the rotors on my brakes are worn out because he's seen it a thousand times before and has physical evidence it's happening with my car, now. His job depends on good diagnoses, he has training in the relevant area, and he has evidence.

I have no problem accepting the second claim regardless of the first.
 

that level of ignorance helps you realize just how unimportant all the view points of people truly are. 

What language is this? Or is it code? Consider reading over what you're about to post to ensure it comes across as literate.

that level of ignorance helps you realize just how unimportant all the view points of people truly are. 

I assumed he was letting everyone know how unimportant his view point is. 

Mission accomplished.