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I made a mistake in my description. The interconnect was between the DAC and the preamp (Conrad-Johnson PV 11.)
Sorry!
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almarg,
I have already switched the orientation of the two pronged preamp power plug to noticeable improvement.
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The interconnects were certainly worth the cost to me.
Tone controls would most certainly NOT have made a radical difference in the sound. The parameters were well beyond the capabilities of tone controls.
The wonderful improvement in sound achieved was obtained at a fraction of the cost of new speakers, whether self-made or bought. |
Interesting debate as to whether the best cables are those that don’t stand in the way of the signal, or those which have their own inherent characteristics.
I tend to agree with the latter argument. |
For the record, I spent under $300 for the interconnects (Morrow MA4, on sale.)
I replaced old Musiclink Transparent cables which cost about the same at the time of purchase.
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bondmanp,
You may indeed be right, but it doesn’t change things.
Different cables sound different from one another, no matter what the reason.
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teo_audio,
It’s controversial, but I think you may have something there about “ear-dumb.”
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+1 elizabeth
pc997:
Blind (or deaf) faith in science without considering observable phenomena is dogma and patently unscientific!
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There are none so blind (deaf) as those who will not see (hear.)
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prof,
Maybe a little bit over the top, but “goofy?” |
prof,
Not to carry this on much further, (this will be my last post on the matter) but, a little over the top is not “goofy,” which signifies something quite different.
And, I was not “settling” the issue! Just expressing my view, which is what we do on Audiogon. I certainly expected others to chime in with contrasting views.
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analogluvr,
I’m sure you’re right. I probably would have difficulty discerning my individual cable from a varied group of cables. But I sure could hear a huge difference between my old one and my new one.
The point is, I think it’s UNDENIABLE that all cables don’t sound the same.
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prof,
Despite, your seeming erudition, you ignore the facts.
Nowhere in my original post do I indicate, or even infer that you have to “spend money on high end cables.” In your ardor, you misstate what was written.
My statement merely avers that “there are differences in cables.”
Nowhere! Is there even a mention of “high end.”
Indeed, in a later post, as a response to a similar challenge, I indicate that the price I spent is about the same as the one I replaced.
Please, next time, please get your facts straight.
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prof,
I do see how my comments could be considered offensive. The “ I have news for you” phrase was poorly chosen.
But my choice of words is a reaction to those who categorically deny that there are differences in the sound of cables. I feel such a position is indefensible. There are those, offensive to me, who stand righteousnesly on the platform of science and measurements to “prove” their point. There are parameters in sound that probably cannot yet be scientifically measured. Accordingly, the ear has to be the final arbiter.
I’m not shilling for so-called “boutique” cables, nor do I claim that the more you spend, the better the cable. I’m merely stating that there IS a difference.
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prof,
While I acknowledge many of your assertions are plausible, I believe you regard science as a kind of religion in itself. Unquestioning faith in current science leaves no room for discovery. You ignore the possibility that the tools of measument may not yet be sensitive enough to assess what a large community of audiophiles recognize. You believe they are all gullible addicts that fall for the insatiable advertising of greedy charlatans; that a kind of mass delusion is at work. I think you protest too much. You have a contempt for the sellers of audiophile equipment that almost borders on paranoia.
I do agree there is a degree of self-delusion and hype in the hobby.
But you carry that to an unreasonable extreme. There is just too much agreement among a great number of listeners that a lot of the phenomena you disdain is real.
Your disclaimer at the end does not really counteract the main thrust of your argument.
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prof,
You will have to have the last word on this subject (you won’t allow it any other way!)
Your extensive rationalizations have worn me out.
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prof,
Your questions are very difficult, if not impossible to answer definitively.
But I still stand by everything I said.
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teo_audio,
I really like your post in the quoted thread
Especially:
“Those who don’t understand or value those differences either can’t hear it, can’t grok it, or are indulging in their inbuilt capacity to fill in, or can’t separate the mechanism out (like some can) and actually hear the new sound, the new accent, the new micro differences. Ie, they literally are not listening. Literally.”
As you say, ”Filling in” is most definitely a phenomenon, especially as you get into the music.
I wholeheartedly concur with the entire post.
Really well thought out and presented, without didactic or overblown verbiage! |
prof,
Your position, as I’m beginning to understand, is radically middle of the road.
You are not black and white. There are no absolutes. All things are relative.
To you, the fact that the majority of audiophiles regard cables as having significant differences is a call to arms on philosophical grounds. Your mission is to defend the minority.
This seems to be a kind intellectual exercise, but I’m afraid one that is misguided.
Have a wonderful, much needed, vacation.
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