erik_squires"I don’t always deny there’s a difference, but I often deny the difference is worth the cost. :)"
The use of a smiley here is apparently intended to suggest that your comment is amusing, entertaining or light hearted in some way when it really just doesn't make any sense at all you can not decide for another individual person whether some upgrade is or is not worth the expense that is a subjective opinion and you can only reliably and meaningfully make that determination for yourself and even under that circumstance the opinion is only relevant at the time that you make it and may change as your Music Reproduction System and even circumstances change.
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thumper34"Anecdotal evidence is worthless."
This is the sort of nonsense promoted and proselytized by those who proclaim themselves objectivists and truth tellers they portray themselves as having some special scientific knowledge, ability and expertise when the fact is they do not know what they are talking about anecdotal evidence has great potential value and true scientists investigate and explore rather than dismiss and insult and in this particular instance the comparison to copper bracelets is a form of logical fallacy which is a common violation committed by these self-proclaimed experts and this guy has only two posts he may be some loser here like "gdhal" reincarnated he was thrown off this group for his fraud and deceit! |
generatorlabs"Can you take one of your new cables, put it on one channel and take one of the old cables and put it on the other channel and then make a high bitrate FLAC recording with this setup so the rest of us can hear what you are talking about? We have the technology folks. Why hasn't some one done this already."
The reason that it may not have been already done if in fact it has not already been done is that this is not necessary to prove what it is that you seem to be seeking to prove and of course there is nothing at all to prevent you yourself from conducting this experiment after all you say you have the technology so why don't you do it rather than wonder in amazement that someone has not already done it for you. |
uberwaltz"Can't we all just get along?"
There are some disturbed people here they do not want to "get along" they want to insult us for spending money on our Music Reproduction Systems rather than support they're charitable causes such as helping the poor, the downtrodden, the disadvantaged as they do because they think they are superior to the rest of us! |
dacer"No snake oil magic."
Actually the truth here has been shown that only those with no experience are making the claims of snake oil magic. |
unreceivedogma"not that I have the time to do that mind you." Of course you do not have the time you are too busy with your charitable efforts to support the poor, the downtrodden, the disadvantaged with your donations rather than spend time, money or effort on your Music Reproduction System it is increasingly obvious that you are another of the second or third grade "grammar school" children who show up here every so often to instruct others while you pretend to be an adult but it is obvious that you are anything but that! It is so unfortunate that you will probably not read this because you are "too busy" for us but school will let out for you soon, right? |
unreceivedogma"I’ve tried expensive cables. I found the claims made by the manufacturers to be wildly overstated and nowhere near worth the cost. As for newbees argument that maybe my system is not revealing enough, I have a Koetsu Onyx, and components to match." Whether something is worth the cost is a purely personal and subjective judgement and determination so while you’re conclusion is valid for you it can not be assumed to be valid for someone else as for Koetsu phono cartridges while some of them can sound wonderful when properly installed, aligned and optimized they are hopelessly colored and do not present an accurate signal corresponding to the input as can be easily demonstrated with proper equipment. |
unreceivedogma"With regard to personal and subjective: learn to read what people are writing. I said “I FOUND”. If YOU want to spend $12,000 on connects, be my guest. I’d prefer to help the poor in Latin America." That is so wonderful for you that you help the poor, the downtrodden, the disadvantaged you must be a very sensitive and special person so nice for you! "With regard to Koetsu being “hopelessly colored”: wow. Just wow. You are sounding silly now, and are trying way to hard to prove your point, since - assuming for the moment that your claim is true - it’s irrelevant to the point that I’m making" If you want us to accept your determinations, conclusions and pronouncements it is very relevent to the underlying discussion that your phono cartridge of choice is one that can scientifically be shown to be not only hopelessly colored but one of the most colored series of cartridges ever manufactured of course if you prefer distortion and exaggeration in your Music Reproduction System output that is fine but it is not something that many people here seek they are looking for accuracy and musicality and what you have is colored and distorted my sensitive, giving and charitable friend! |
unreceivedogma"I'm too busy to invest more time in this nonsense, you will have to have the last word.'
I am most pleased to see that you are busy with active pursuits that will help you support the poor, the downtrodden, the disadvantaged with your donations and charity efforts good for you! I am amused almost beyond words that you find it irrelevent that your favorite phono cartridge has been scientifically established to be distorted and colored while also trying to convince us that you're determinations, conclusions and pronouncements are to be accepted, embraced and designated as truth you are quite full of dogma as you're name here claims! |
elizabeth"The entire World up to Humans was survival of the fittest. Humans, particularly Christians, have decided to save the unfit, so they can reproduce the most, and the well off and fittest, seem to have pretty much stopped reproducing. So if you want to help this cause, please send your money to the starving so they can make more starving babies!!"
One thing to remember Elizabeth is that the apparent proselytizers here are mostly children in the second or third grade of American grammar school and they are trying to pretend to be something they are not it is a fact of the Internet and they are not really to be taken seriously and then they go away when they're moms find out what they are doing one of them had they're mom suspend they're posting privledges when she found out the boy was flunking some of his classes and would have to repeat a grade! Of course there are some true adults here who behave the same way with they're evengelical repetition of their belief systems which they insist others accept, embrace and promote and some of them are obviously disturbed in the extreme it is actually very sad. |
unreceivedogma"I’m probably old enough to be your granddaddy." If that were true you’d be dead I think you are in second or third grade "grammar school" or maybe fourth but that’s about it based on what you say here but you sure are one of the local experts here about dogma you are all about faith, belief, and fervor over what you believe to be true. |
playmore"... I suggest that, in the difference of cable issue there ARE not (yet) observable phenomenon in the non-biased reproducible sense respected by scientists. So belief system, sure, no sense in arguing."
Well of course you are entitled to your cherished beliefs but your statement inaccurate there have been many instances where cable differences have been scientifically shown, proven and established these include measurement based tests as well as double blind, scientific controlled double blind listening tests and yes these are reproduceable but it is easier for so many such as yourself to cling to your faith based convictions and of course you are free to think as you please. |
unreceivedogma"”there have been many instances where cable differences have been scientifically shown, proven and established these include measurement based tests as well as double blind, scientific controlled double blind listening tests and yes these are reproduceable”
show me even one. I asked you already. You have failed to substantiate your position, one that I regard as a placebo-induced theological stance."
You are obviously suffering from some juvenile impatience combined with a self-righteous indignation so you would be best advised to 'cool your heels' and leave your religious fervor at the door if what you truly seek is knowledge Google is your friend and their is abundant science available that shows cable differences scientifically proven in repeatable, scientific verifiable listening tests so you can stop with your pronouncements and preachings.
here's some reading for you that may impart some knowledge if you can open up that steel trap of a brain for a bit. You're welcome. You can STFU now. |
unreceivedogma"The guy is a genius. His opinion: Are there differences? Yes. Are they meaningful? Don’t waste your money.'
It does not matter if he is a genius or if you are a genius or whatever you're claims to intellectual superiority are whether something is worth the price asked is a purely subjective determination and decision and to presume that because you are inherently superior gives you the wherewithall to decide others decision's for them is just the sort of "dogma" that would be expected from someone such as yourselfand the name you have chosen to use here. |
unreceivedogma"thanks for the link. I’ll read it but it’s highly unlikely to move the needle. Imho these things don’t pass cost benefit analysis." There is no cost to read the truthful and revealing article that I sent you it is obvious that you’re mind is already made up that’s the way it is with fervent religious fundamentalists such as yourself nothing can in any way intrude or cloud your cherished beliefs you will not allow that or even the tinyest bit of doubt creep into you’re closed mind. |
unreceivedogma"don’t characterize me as something I am not in order to coddle your own insecurities. I am an agnostic.
You have charcaterized yourself and now reveal yourself to be wholly untruthful you are not an agnostic you stomped your feet and pounded your fist for scientifically valid evidence of differences between cables and when provided with an authoritative link that would also lead you to additional scientific, verifiable, repeatable data you wrote:
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it’s highly unlikely to move the needle. Imho these things don’t pass cost benefit analysis."
So you're mind is made up tight as a steel trap don't try and pretend you are what you obviously are not because to answer your question, yes I can read and so can everyone else here, my little friend. |
