Integrated tube amp vs Tube amp?


My first foray into tubes. Does it make sense to get an integrated tube amp if I have a tube preamp ? I have a McIntosh C2700 now. Should I just look for a straight tube amp to pair with the McIntosh? Do I get an integrated tube amp and use it’s preamp ? I guess I am asking will I get more performance ,for my money, by getting just tube amp?

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Showing 4 responses by avanti1960

Sharing my history I moved on from a Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II into a foray of separates- 

(2) rogue audio tube preamps, rogue audio, parasound and pass power amps, cary audio tube preamps.  

truth be told I miss the sound of the Cronus Magnum integrated.  The only thing it was ultimately missing is that last ounce of speed and dynamics compared to my current tube preamp / solid state amp.  But the overall sound was often simply gorgeous, something hard to find regardless of your system.  

@mulveling 

i agree completely but with a cary audio SLP-05 and a Pass XA25 I still miss the sound of the Cronus Magnum II.  I have class A solid state quickness but missing whatever the CM II tube amp did.  And the stereo 100 was not "it".  Too dark.  I liked the polished neutrality of the CM II.  

@mulveling

forgot about the dark option, thanks for the mention. i may have to order a stereo 100 dark.  

i tried everything to brighten the non dark version including all sorts of tubes and a bright preamp but no luck.  

 

Never tried the Mazda 12AX7, thanks for the tip. 

Tried everything else and nothing could beat the Amperex Bugle Boy long plates- so smooth and holographic.  

A good complement to the 12AU7 Bugle Boy Holland.  

The RCA 5814 were an attempt to add some top end but they were a touch to sibilant.  

I do have some Mazda 12AU7s too.  So glad I kept all those small signal tubes.