Integrated for Martin Login Motion 60’s?

Thank you for the tip on Pathos.  Unknown to me until now for some reason.  Yes, beautiful amp and much lighter than it looks.  I forgot to mention I am limited to approximately 50 lbs by my rack and my aching back.  The tubes make me a little nervous.

You mention 25 wpc may not be enough.  Being somewhat inexperienced with class "A", I don't know what I need.  I do know I have class "A".  guitar amps that will peel paint in 5 watt mode.

@freediver – Reviews I’ve read for the Pathos amps are very encouraging.  No noise which was a concern.  A Heated Inversion Table sounds awesome but will take a big junk of change out of my Integrated piggy bank.  Thanks.

@robert53 – Yes, MF is on my short list.  The M6si is 220 wpc.  Do you know if this is class “A/B”?  Based on the heatsinks, I can assume that it is not class “D”.  Reviews say it has plenty of low-end punch which is encouraging.  Appears to be allot of bang/ buck.  Thanks for feedback with the ML 60’s.  The M6si looks tempting as well but is over my weight limit.

@kevtekav22  – Thanks for bringing the XS3 to my attention.  I had assumed that all Naim Integrateds had onboard DACs but the XS3 appears not to.  Looks like binding posts are bananas only so I would have to replace my spade-ended speaker wire as well.  Thanks.

@pureclarity – I have seen this amp but have not read anything about it.  I like that it’s made in US.  The price looks very competitive.  I see they offer a Signature model as well with 125 wpc.  I will do some more research on these amps.  Thank you.

So many choices.  I miss the good old days when I had 5-6 brick and mortar stores all within 35 miles from home.  All I had to do back then was go and listen.

@robert53 - Sorry, meant to say that the MF M6si500 was over my weight limit.  Probably more amp than I need anyway.  Thanks again for your input.

@oldaudiophile - Lots of great input here.  Simaudio is on my radar but would prefer not to pay for an onboard DAC.  Interesting that it stood out to you.  I would also like to know which Luxman you were listening to that you thought sounded virtually identical to the MAC as I have not heard that before.

Yes, store-to-store comparisons are difficult but at least you got to listen and were left with an impression when you left the store.  Good to know that you liked the MF M6si as well.  It definitely checks allot of boxes for me.

Now that you mention speaker placement, it rings a bell that they need to be out quite a way from the back wall.  Yikes, 6’ is a big space even for my big room but I may have to give that a try.  Thanks for all of this, greatly appreciated!

@oldaudiophile  - I’m kind of surprised more people have not recommended Luxman.  I’m wondering if it is because they are not a good match for the Motion 60’s, or just because people have found Integrateds that they like better.  I do realize that they are more money, and I would probably be looking at used vs new for the units we’ve all discussed here.

Thanks for clarifying listening position vs speaker placement. Yes, I had mis-understood.  Listening position for me is much easier to adjust!  The 60’s are currently out about two feet, and chairs are out probably at the 6’ distance.  I just need to actually take time to sit down and listen.  When I do find time to sit, I am usually in the same chair.  Now you’ve got me thinking about trying some different seating positions in the room.

I’m using a Peachtree Nova 300 right now which is class “D”.  The Nova is everything it was promised to be, but I’m really interested in hearing what class “A” or “A/B” will do for the my Motion 60’s. 

Thanks again for all of your input!

@ghdprentice - Great input on these three manufacturers.  Interesting that an amp (Luxman) can possibly provide too much detail?  I had not thought about that.  I agree that the Motion 60’s are neither overly warm or bass heavy. 

I would love to try a Pass INT-25, but it does not have pre-outs for my subs, and I have grown found of them.  The INT-60 has pre-outs but is an absolute beast.  I don’t think that I could even get it inside the house by myself. 

I have admired Audio Research for many years and came close to buying a Preamp years ago but it was not a good match.  Their Integrateds appear to be tube only or at least hybrids?  Regardless, yes, great amps and I am envious of you.  Enjoy, and thank you for your input.