Inheritance ($100K) with a caveat


So you inherit $100k but with the caveat all the monies be put into a two channel stereo system.
And can never sell.
What to do?
Analog? Digital? Both? Tube? Solid State? Cables? Room treatments? Build a stereo room?…

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Showing 5 responses by millercarbon

Easy to write off the OP as fantasy, but I have seen guys in pretty much this exact situation. The best one was a guy I hardly knew, just a regular at this brew pub. When he retired from Boeing first thing he did was drop $40k on a high end system. Knowing nothing he bought Martin Logan and a slew of other stuff he had no idea what it was. In fact the only reason I know it was Martin Logan, he told me what they look like! That is how little he knew, yet he dropped forty large.  

He was real happy. Well they usually are at first, shiny and sparkly and all that.  

Another guy, knew him through PCA had no idea he was into audio at all until he came over one time and went all gaga. He was pretty similar to the first guy. He knew a lot more about what he had but hadn't really much experience and so as a result had spent way more than I had in my system at the time but when he sat down and listened he was blown away. Just kept saying play another, please play another!  

Music to my ears.  


oregonpapa- I’d keep my current system and buy the new 2022 Corvette. Both make beautiful music.

Frank

Wait- that’s an option? 997.2 C4S!
Millercarbon… I probably do not understand the complete synergy of your system. But I have been a fan of Townsend products for a LONG time. I still have and use a Townsend audio platform from the 90’s. Only trouble is right now I’m have difficulties locating the air pump.
cable savings is a big deal.
especially now that I’m retired.

You mean the complete synergy of my proposed $100k? Or my current system? https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367

Nevermind, they are the same. At least in the sense they both reflect the way to audio nirvana is less to do with buying big name components and more with making the best use of funds apportioned across the full range of fundamental requirements.

The conventional way of looking at it is you need a source, amp, and speakers. This was popular and highly effective up until about 40 years ago, when we started getting better and better with wire, vibration control, and acoustics. Now those are all pretty much equally as important as the big box components people trapped in old school last millennium mindset still are fixed on.

The synergy comes in realizing, say you have $20k and want the best amp money can buy. The old school last millennium knee jerk reflex is to start blathering about which is the best $20k amp. The intelligent synergy approach is to understand a $12k Raven Reflection integrated amp with a Synergistic Orange Fuse and ECT and sitting on Townshend Pods with a M101 Nova power cord will absolutely walk all over anything those old behind the times people can ever come up with. Because they will blow their whole wad on the amp, leaving zip left over, so it is handicapped by having to run on its own factory feet, its own Buss fuse, and with the absolute crap black rubber power cord. To top it off most of them will say buy separates, in which case multiply the problems with even more boxes to power and connect.

So the synergy lies in thinking through all the different needs and finding the best way of doing them all with the least amount of money.

The system I would buy with $100k intended to last a lifetime uses a Soundsmith SG1 which is not only one of the finest cartridges money can buy, it is also one with user-replaceable stylus and includes its own phono stage, which considering the level this is at could run you $10k easy. Read the reviews. Also don’t forget that to get that performance the $10k phono stage will need an expensive power cord and Pods and Fuse, etc. Every additional component is not just an additional component, it is an additional thing that needs to be tweaked to extract the most performance possible. Otherwise you leave money on the table, so to speak.

Likewise the tone arm, Origin Live uses integral tone arm wire. This eliminates a big expense, since a phono lead at this level could easily add another $3k to $5k with little if anything to show for that extra expense.

On and on it goes like this. The DBA is a four sub system. Most guys would have blown their wad trying to get great bass from monster floor standers. The Moab is no slouch in this department but a $3k DBA delivers SOTA bass for relative peanuts.

Another big synergy is using high sensitivity speakers. This enables the 50wpc Ravens to be more than enough power. Anyone foolishly advising anything under 92dB has to then have hundreds of watts - 200 to be precise - to match the level of these 98dB speakers. Watts cost money and so there it goes, wasted simply because of a weak approach to system building.

Synergistic HFT are way more effective acoustic control than old school panels and tubes. They cost less, deliver more, and take up way less space.

It is just like that with everything I listed. This whole $100k system requires only 2 power cords! One interconnect, and one set of speaker cables. Money buys quality and the more wires the less money per wire. This maximizes your money, bigly.

What else? Oh yeah, the crossover. Something I proved by experience just recently. Moabs with greatly upgraded crossovers will walk all over much more expensive speakers. Ulfberht are better of course, but for what they cost you could buy Moab, upgrade them, and put them on Townshend Podiums, and have money left over. Put them up against each other, no contest. System synergy wins every time.

Where this comes in for you, once you get the hang of this approach you begin to find all kinds of areas that can be improved for very little money, and when you do buy something it will be a genuine improvement and not just another box.

Your old Seismic Sink btw, pretty sure it is a Presta valve, any bicycle pump with the Presta valve adaptor will work. Presta are the ones with a tiny little knurled knob you loosen to pump and then tighten back down. If not then check with John Hannant at Townshend Audio he would know for sure.
It is a tough call. I left something out and had to edit. Without the time pressure I would do my best to replace the Reflection with a Raven Shadow and Townshend Allegri Reference preamp.  

I wonder if you appreciate the incredible value this system represents. The Allegri Reference is passive and so uses no expensive power cord, yet achieves SOTA preamp performance. The Raven Reflection likewise being an integrated uses only one power cord. Either one saves a big chunk of power cord money while still providing incredible performance. Also the Allegri needs no Pods, they are built in.  

The Townshend wire is incredibly hard to beat, for sure nothing for the money, and the same goes for the Moabs. And power cords. Soundsmith SG1 is both an incredible SOTA cartridge but also needs no phono stage- another huge savings both for the phono stage as well as the power cord it would need. This is also the only user-replaceable stylus anywhere near this level of performance, and you did specify forever.   

Anyone proposing anything digital is doomed, NO ONE keeps ANY digital forever, so any system with digital in it is doomed, dead, stick a fork in it DONE!   

You. Can't. Touch. This!
30 Onkk Cue turntable
15 Origin Live Conqueror, Soundsmith SG1 and 2 extra styluses
6 Moabs with Duelund, Jantzen, Goertz and Path Audio crossovers
3 DBA
12 Raven Reflection MkII integrated amp
  5 Townshend F1 interconnects and speaker cables
15 M101 Nova and Supernova power cords
1 Decware DLC power conditioner
5 Townshend Pods and Podiums under everything
2 Synergistic HFT, ECT, PHT everywhere
6 TDF (aka Krissy magic)
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$100k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo