inherent design flaws with a 3 way, 15" / 8" / horn (large tower) speaker?


hello

I see precious few classic large 3-ways (15" woofer 8" mid and a large horn) being developed these days, at least amongst the speaker designers I run across.

Is there an INHERENT reason, other than size, why a large tower-style speaker can't match the musicality of what seems to be the dominant designs these days (2-way bookshelf, or MTM)?
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Your premise is flawed.  There are many, myself included, who consider a 2-way or 3-way with 15” vintage paper cone woofer to be more musical than a 2-way bookshelf or slim modern speaker.  The key is the “vintage paper cone” part.  These woofers have little in common with a modern era 15” woofer with a heavy synthetic cone. The vintage woofer is more efficient (99 dB for example) and super-fast; it can blend seamlessly with a lightning fast horn/compression driver.  Forget the 8” driver in your example.  A good vintage woofer can easily cross over to a horn at 800 or 1200 Hz.  Having a driver in between would simply make the sound less coherent, less seamless.

So why aren’t speakers with a 15” woofer and big horn more common today?  Size is the main reason.  The woofer is big, the cabinet for the woofer is much bigger than normal today, and the horn is also big.  And then you need a pair for stereo.  But for those who have the room to accommodate a pair of large speakers, this is the way to go in my opinion.
Shkong78, you are a lucky fellow to have heard those WE speakers.  Do you know which WE units these were?
Two examples of the woofers I was talking about are the Altec 416 and Jensen P15LL.  My two pairs of speakers each use the P15LL which is a high efficiency 15” with light paper cone and an Alnico magnet.  It was used in the Jensen Imperial horn speaker as well as other commercial units back in the 1950s and 60s.  Both the Jensen and Altec are available on EBay.  In addition Great Plains Audio makes new Altec speakers using the same design and materials as the originals.

There are many horns and compression drivers that can blend nicely with the woofers.  For a number of years I used an Altec 32B horn with 802-8G driver with a 1200 Hz crossover.  I now use a YL Acoustic horn and driver with an 800 Hz crossover.  Both speakers are pictured in my system page.  Each of these is a great sounding, high efficiency (99 dB) speaker that is an easy16 ohm load for a tube amp.