Impressions of the Re-issued Genalex Gold Lion U77/GZ34 Rectifier Tube


First some qualifications. I only have ears to judge. I have little knowledge of circuit design etc. But I have spent about 15 yrs putting a very good system together which I would be happy to show to anyone. I have also learned that synergy is the key to success in putting together the magic that we all are looking for. I am not totally new to tubes. But if my system sounds good, I generally leave it alone. Okay, so that's not completely accurate... I leave it alone longer than many others. My point is that I have not all the different  GZ34 tubes. But I have some. I tried SS as recommended. (Weber Copper cap) It sounded  awful to me and my wife.

My system is listed in my profile. The amp is a Bob Latino VTA ST-70 with all upgrades offered. Bob built the amp in "09. I didn't realized the importance of a good rectifier tube until I got the Genalex Gold Lion. I've had this in a little less than a week. First impression.....WOW!!. The attack of the plucked strings on SRV's "Tin Pan Alley" was fantastic. Extremely sharp. Plenty of air. I was spell bound. But I wasn't expecting what came next. the bass kicked in and was at least an octave or more deeper than it was the previous day when I listened to it with a different rectifier tube.(Sovtek) It hit me in the chest more than it has ever done. I have fought hard to get the adequate amount of bass in my room for years. The room is 5000 cu ft which is a lot to fill. So this is welcomed. If you have a bass heavy system it may not be your cup of tea unless you can tame it. AAMOF, I turned back my sub last night. I've never done that before. 

At first I thought my new cartridge (Zyx 4D) may be playing a big part since it digs out more bass than my previous cartridge. Its been in the system about 6-8 weeks. However, putting on a CD showed the same tendencies as what I had heard on vinyl, though maybe not to the same extent.

I am very happy with the Genalex GL GZ34. The price is $40 which puts it at the top price for the re-issued  GZ34's. I had a GL in the amp before which had a very short life span

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/genalex-gl-gz-34-rectifier-did-i-just-get-a-bad-one-five-mont...

However I suspect it may have been due to a weak tube being cryoed and used in a demanding amp. This one is not cryoed and was hand picked by Jim McShane.  The sound is good enough that I would be willing to buy  a new tube each year because the sound is that good. Certainly I hope that isn't the case. However, Jim (& I)  believe that a good GZ34 should handle the ST-70, though that has been pointed out as the short coming of this amp. However, I got at least 3 yrs out of the original GZ34 tube. Maybe I'll get a good life from this one. Like the previous one, I will enjoy it while it lasts. Its a winner.
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yep, old post here

i advise all who ask that when it comes to gz34/5ar4’s it is really best to stick with old stock uk/dutch ones, and then usa ones, even if one has to pay up for them

the old world ones are exceptionally well built and last a loooonnnnggggg time... and because when rectifiers fail, the failure can hurt the device it is powering, so replacing a blown rectifier is often not as simple as just plugging in a new one into the socket... playing with modern rectifier tubes with lower reliability has hidden costs that can sometimes be rather high

@jjss49 

I have been  told this before and will heartily agree. The fact is that many things were built much better before built in  obsolescence became the byword for mfgs. However, the problem is the $150+ for the NOS tubes.The GL was $40. But I understand the problems it can cause.

At the time I was using a Bob Latino ST-70 which is hard on rectifier tubes. Also I was surprised at how much a rectifier tube could have on the amp itself. This was the shock to me..And it lasted longer than others  Anyway, I now have a NOS  Matsushita (Japanese Mullard). but the amp is a backup now. Great sounding amp.

Hi guys, I have a fully modded Modwright Oppo UDP 20w with Modwrighr PS 9.0 psu. They shipped with Sovtek 5ar4  the first one blew within a week blowing a fuse in my power conditioner.  The second one blew 5 months later blowing the fuse in the psu.  I'm new to tube world so flying blind a lot.  Upon research I found some supliers with pointers on subbing out tubes and which models do what. audiotubes.com is the most comprehesive list of tubes and descriptions and comparisons. Thanks for the Jime McShane tip

The first substitute fo the 5ar4 was a Tung Sol gz34. which offered a significant improvement over Sovtek (Sovetek from the Russian root word meaning "is crap") . Picked up a NOS Mazda (phillips) 5r4gys which changed everything for the better. Wow!  Just seeing the new tube was a treat. It had an obvious look and feel of a quality object. Amazing what a good rectifier tube can do.

Here is an unfortunate warning abou another vendor Doug's Tubes.

I ordered a couple of overpriced cheap vacuum tubes for an amp. I found some other choices but failed to cancel order before they got to me. They arrived with several other boxes and I opened them.
A day or so later I requested a return, he asked what the problem was. I just found better cheaper . "well if the original shipping box is open I can't take them back"
"Any way if I did take them back there is 15% restocking fee"
So situation is:
1. No returns if His box has been opened
2. 15% restocking if you meet item 1

Sounds like this guy has had some issues. The other mosts cites frequent bad tubes going out I guess he doesn't want to stand behind his products. I mean after all he will only accept a return if you Have Not inspected the merchandise.

 

I found several other reviews of the same character on other sites Buy Beware!

I can kinda see where he's coming from. Some people have been known to pull a switcheroo and send similar looking but very used tubes back after requesting a return. And changing your mind after you ordered simply because you got some tubes cheaper somewhere else isn't exactly going to endear you to the vendor, so a 15% fee for his time and trouble doean't seem all that unreasoable..

just sayin'