Impedance Loading for SS Hyperion


"470 - 1000Ω" says Peter Ledermann. My phono stage offers 400. 800, 1,200. so I used 400 initially (extremely smooth), decided 800 was better (some edge present) and 1.2k even better still. There is one higher setting allowed for the MC input (along with several lower ones), 47k. So I’m trying it, and I like it. I keep swapping to the London Reference I am comparing the Hyperion to, and it seems the higher the impedance loading, the closer they sound. I am not experiencing the "peaked high end" I was warned of if loading is increased over 1000Ω.

Maybe my half a remaining ear (thanks, streptomycin!) simply can’t hear the cartridge screeching. Might work for others with high frequency loss? I think the issue is that I have a powered sub that is making sure I hear some bass whatever the loading is set to. If I turn it off the Quad 2905 speakers alone don't sound as if I'm listening to the full range of sound. Perhaps I should set the loading without the sub, and then do my usual procedure of setting the sub volume so I cannot tell that it is switched on, but all the same things sound better?

dogberry

@lewm 

Simply working the inductance against the load impedance is too simplistic of an assessment for the use of a SUT in the case of MI (or other high L ) cartridges.  What becomes more important is the load capacitance reflected through the transformer resonating with the inductance creating problems near the top of the audio band.  assuming a 1:10 and 150pF of load capacitance and 2.75mHy of inductance we get a resonance @ 25kHz.  The 47kΩ does a lot to damp this resonance but being so close to the top of the audio band makes me nervous.

 

dave

Dave, I hope I didn't claim to know exactly why inductance is the problem with using the SUT, only that it IS a problem.  I did understand it has something to do with HF resonance, but I guess I left open the incorrect interpretation that it has to do with the cartridge trying to drive the resulting load. Thank you for the explanation. I think Atmasphere has said the same. Based on reports here from users of the low output Soundsmith MI cartridges, Peter Ledermann is not against using SUTs with his cartridges but probably only ones with a turns ratio of 1:10 or less.

After having much frustration with 6922 tube noise in my Primaluna Evo 100 MC stage, both with tubes going noisy after a brief period, as well as the noticeable noise floor, I decided to hook up a SUP and run the phono in MM mode. For my Soundsmith Hyperion ES MK 2, I chose a set of Llundahl 9926 XLs, set to 1:10 ratio, that I installed in a project box. So, the loading works out to be 470 ohms. The result was nothing short of extraordinary - very low noise, excellent clarity, precise instrument positioning, vast soundstage depth, an overall a lot more realistic sounding. I do not perceive any dullness that would be fixed with higher loading. I had not heard what that cartridge could really do until now, and I’ve heard it through much more expensive fully active phono stages in my system. I can’t recommend this combination highly enough. I also think it’s a testament to the MM stage of that phono preamp. I do feel that the MC stage in it holds it back from its true potential, at least with my setup.

I used the Sussurro MkII ES with a VAS transformer (1:10) and enjoyed it greatly, and found no downside when I resurrected the NuVista Vinyl to using it with an input set to MC. So when I got the Hyperion I plugged it straight into the NuVista.

Prior to using SUT I had the Sussurro connected to an MC input of a Quad 24p, and that was not impressive (loading was fixed at 10Ω).

One strange thing to report, though, is that I recently had to swap in an old power amp (YBA-1ɑ) as one of my Quad II/forty amps developed a fault. The Hyperion now has a slight hum that I had not heard with the Quads. Irritating! I'm curious to see if it resolved when the Quad gets repaired.

Try lifting a ground on the amp or somewhere else? Also, not that this may directly help you in your case, but I was getting hum in the phono section with my new SUT at first. I moved it further away from my power regenerator and that fixed it.