If you listen to anything other than Classic Jazz, don't read this.


:)  I'm a Jazz only intermediate audiophile looking to improve my system. i ONLY listen to jazz, and i think that matters. If you are of the opinion that great speakers make all music sound good then move on to the next post, because the premise here is that speakers for Acoustic Jazz ( Big Band to Post Bop) have different requirements. My jazz audiophile buddies and i hav A/B'd lots of different speaker/amp/turntable/cartridge combinations as a fun hobby for the last 3 years. i've gone through at least 3 whole systems to get where i am now:
All Rega System - Rega Exex-R, Rega P3, with upgrades, Rega MC Phono Pre,  Rega Apheta 2 Cartridge, Rega RX5 Speakers. 

It sounds really great, but want to get to amazing if possible, and have recently done some speaker comparisons with some Paradigms and Harbeths that show the RX5's could have a tighter, deeper bass and bit more high frequency... 

The challenge is threefold -
1 )information out there is hard to come by, often confusing and  i haven't found much information specifically on what speakers jazz heads prefer.
2) I want to be able to put them up against my current system in my room, which seems a difficult task
3) They have to look good. Aesthetics matter to me. Tektons and Magnapans are cool But Ugly AF, and not going to work for me.

i want someone to tell me this is the best my system is going to get and just enjoy it (which i do 82.5% of the time), or recommend a few things to try, hopefully with recommendation for speakers to try, but i'm open to other suggestions.

I look forward to your comments :)

sincerely,
Eric the Jazz Snob
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Showing 3 responses by douglas_schroeder

Ah, I blew it; I read the post. Now, you'll have to endure my reply! 

Is the OP so steeped in the culture of live Jazz music, and so ignorant of electronics, that he has no idea how obtuse, how idiosyncratic his search criteria?

As a reviewer, I will make it clear; selection of one limited genre of music for assessment of a speaker, or any component is self-defeating. It is like looking for an athlete to compete in the decathlon, but assessing their ability by only desiring to know how they perform in the Javelin throw. 

Note well: A speaker that performs better in all musical genres will perform better in Classical Jazz. If someone is telling you otherwise, they are giving you horrid advice, and or have vested interests in the guidance. 

Almost without fail in 30 years+ of involvement in the High End, speakers that are said to perform with certain genres of music better, are worse speakers holistically. They are usually quite limited in critical areas of performance, tonally as well. 

You may wish to consider my adage born of much system building and assessment of hundreds of speakers: The greatest impediment to advancing an audio system is the audiophile.  

Now, you didn't want my advice, but I gave it to you anyway as a cordial response to what I saw as a dismissive, pride-filled first post. (You may have been using very dry humor, and I have given you the benefit of the doubt, so to speak)

Welcome to the community! I hope you are successful in your search. It should not be too difficult to improve markedly upon the speakers you currently own. There are numerous levels of sound quality improvement available to you. Imo, at this stage you are closer to the midway point on the High End performance spectrum than the top.   :)


Ericmbass, ah, how lovely that it has not become "eric embarrass "!

(Glad I relented and took a lighthearted approach to response)

Any speaker pictured in my virtual system is reviewed at Dagogo.com and would yield it's own particular flavor of wonderful with Classic Jazz. Curious about brands, just ask. 

I strongly suggest as matter of first priority that you get sorted out what genre of speaker (i.e. dynamic - as currently, hybrid dynamic, horn hybrid, full range, panel, open baffle, etc. You would likely enjoy based on attributes. Sysrem development will follow. If uninterested in changing system, then perhaps stay with dynamic, hybrid dynamic, or full range.  
Gotta love it; we have competing technologies as the "perfect" Jazz speaker! One says, "full range," while the other says, "HUH? ESL, of course!" 

Anyone interested in my assessment of both the Kingsound King III and Sound Lab 545 (at the time named U4iA) will find my reviews at Dagogo.com 

You should hear Jazz through a good omni, or line source, or OB, or horn hybrid! SO much better!  Heh, heh, heh....