guitarsam; If you'll promise to start using caps, I'll give it a shot..
I promise.... I 'm not picky, either..
It sure makes for a hard read.
Regards
I promise.... I 'm not picky, either..
It sure makes for a hard read.
Regards
if i encode digital audio with vinyl frequencies will i have digital vinyl ?
sam here again and as crazy as my question is i'm very serious. now i'm no expert on audio by any means,however if i was i would have never stepped outside the box and discovered what i believe i did discover ?
i realize that on paper looking at the figures digital is superior to vinyl in every way however tell that to my ears ? could the answer to converting digital audio into the sound of digital vinyl be so simple that it has been overlooked since the introduction of the compact disc 38 years ago ? let me explain.
i haven't owned a turntable in 20 years however listening to a vinyl rip i realized how superior the sound is to digital to my ears. and if i could convert digital audio to sound more like vinyl that would be a great compromise between the two formats.
and then i read this Nikola Tesla said, “ If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration.“
o.k if music is made up of frequencies, if i replace the frequencies of digital audio with the frequencies of vintage vinyl would the digital audio now take on the sound characteristics of the source vinyl ? i now believe this to be the case.here is what i did.
i took a commercial digital downloaded flac 16/44 album and re-encoded the album from flac to flac and while i did the re-encode i was playing a digital 1st press vinyl rip of pink floyds us and them playing in the background on my p.c desktop.
it doesn't seem to matter if the vinyl playing in the background has volume or not as long as it is playing. also if you have a turntable you can play a great sounding vinyl song directly from the turntable with or without sound, and all the vinyl frequencies will be encoded on to the re-encoded digital flac album. i believe the frequencies are using the earth's natural electro magnetic grid. it's like natures wifi.
due to the brick wall limiting for the loudness wars,the re-encoded digital flac is not going to sound 100% like the vinyl version,however i can get very close and it only takes about 10 seconds to do a re-encode of a full album.
i encourage anyone to try and duplicate my results so i know it's not the placebo effect. now here are some before/after audio samples so you can hear what i think i hear. same source for both samples
commercial digital download flac 16/44 - crosby stills & nash - helplessly hoping (1969) http://u.pc.cd/u09ctalK
same digital source with 1st press pink floyds us and them playing in the background: http://u.pc.cd/ilO7
i realize that on paper looking at the figures digital is superior to vinyl in every way however tell that to my ears ? could the answer to converting digital audio into the sound of digital vinyl be so simple that it has been overlooked since the introduction of the compact disc 38 years ago ? let me explain.
i haven't owned a turntable in 20 years however listening to a vinyl rip i realized how superior the sound is to digital to my ears. and if i could convert digital audio to sound more like vinyl that would be a great compromise between the two formats.
and then i read this Nikola Tesla said, “ If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration.“
o.k if music is made up of frequencies, if i replace the frequencies of digital audio with the frequencies of vintage vinyl would the digital audio now take on the sound characteristics of the source vinyl ? i now believe this to be the case.here is what i did.
i took a commercial digital downloaded flac 16/44 album and re-encoded the album from flac to flac and while i did the re-encode i was playing a digital 1st press vinyl rip of pink floyds us and them playing in the background on my p.c desktop.
it doesn't seem to matter if the vinyl playing in the background has volume or not as long as it is playing. also if you have a turntable you can play a great sounding vinyl song directly from the turntable with or without sound, and all the vinyl frequencies will be encoded on to the re-encoded digital flac album. i believe the frequencies are using the earth's natural electro magnetic grid. it's like natures wifi.
due to the brick wall limiting for the loudness wars,the re-encoded digital flac is not going to sound 100% like the vinyl version,however i can get very close and it only takes about 10 seconds to do a re-encode of a full album.
i encourage anyone to try and duplicate my results so i know it's not the placebo effect. now here are some before/after audio samples so you can hear what i think i hear. same source for both samples
commercial digital download flac 16/44 - crosby stills & nash - helplessly hoping (1969) http://u.pc.cd/u09ctalK
same digital source with 1st press pink floyds us and them playing in the background: http://u.pc.cd/ilO7
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@guitarsam wrote: i haven't owned a turntable in 20 years however listening to a vinyl rip i realized how superior the sound is to digital to my ears. and if i could convert digital audio to sound more like vinyl that would be a great compromise between the two formats.And then the two samples you provided are recordings from roughly 50 years ago. I'd suggest you consider the following: fads and fashion change for recording styles just as they do for clothing, hair, music, furniture and almost everything else in life. In the recording studio, the choice of microphones used, their placement, the studio acoustics and treatment, the mixing console and so on have changed over the years. Likewise, the recording engineer and producer's choices when mixing down and adding special effects reflect the fads and fashions of the time when the recording was made. Then the final mix needs to be remastered for the commercial manufacture of the recording -- vinyl mastering has a different set of limitations and considerations than what is done for CD/digital releases. A lot of old rock material that is re-released on CD is often processed to bring the sound more in line with today's fads and fashions. There are endless ways to do this with all of the toys available in the digital realm. I think I said this before in another of the threads you started, but it never surprises me when the commercial CD release of an album has a different overall sound quality than the vinyl release, especially if one is comparing the original LP to a later and remastered reissue. Likewise, I am also not surprised that, if you convert your own LPs to digital, those recordings become almost impossible to differentiate between. |
Sam the first link doesn’t work the second one does. The second file sounds good, I’m just using a laptop, tube headphone amp as a preamp, a class d 2.1 and a couple old RS4b It is a quality playback I must admit.. So you went from a LP that was digitally remastered, and recorded it? The recording you did is a digital file in flac format. Then you play an LP at the same time? I don’t get that part, what you’re doing. Playing both at the same time. It sounds that way to me.. Don’t be like me and use a 1000 words to explain "NO it won’t work" lol Explain to this old fart, a little slower, if you don’t mind.. I have to go wind up the Victrola, it’s running a little slow. Regards |
Sam here with an update.You don't need to do a re-encode, Step (1) Play a digital rip of a vinyl song on your computer, Or play a vinyl song, on your turntable. With or without volume/ Step (2) While the vinyl is playing, Take a digital album on your computer and copy and paste, Making a second copy of the folder, Which takes about 5 seconds. Now A/B the original and the copy of the same digital album And the copy will sound like the vinyl |
same here. I respect that djones51 hears no difference, However in blind a/b testing i'm hitting 100% everytime This is the vintage vinyl hi-res song i'm using if you don't have one. Just play in background while making a copy of digital song or album and the copy will sound like vinyl. http://u.pc.cd/QzrctalK |
Ya know, I think I'll stick with vinyl, when I want to listen to vinyl. I don't listen to a lot, but, then I use to be a strict Reel to Reel guy. My wife is the vinyl person.. I just listen when she's qued up.. I like CDs, streaming and a server.. just easy.. She'll wash and get them just right.. lot of work, old vinyl, Sure sounds good. Regards |