Thanks Sean and Snofun3.
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I didn't know that muggers, robbers and thieves deserved tips. That's what i was referring to in my post, not being hassled or blown off by waiters and waitresses. As to German's being "poor tippers", their culture / pay rates in the customer service industry are different than what we have here in the States. Until they can acclimate to those differences, they are doing what is considered "normal" in their culture / society. Sean > |
Sean, Germans get the worst of it because they're such crappy tippers. If someone has a German accent in your party, they'll put 20% tip on and dare you to decrease it, even for crappy, east Florida service. It sounds like Grisslehamn has the hang of it anyways, and Scandahoovians have a very good way of fading into the background - best chameleons I've seen when traveling. My Danish buddies just say they're from New Jersey when someone asks, and no one seems to question it. |
Sheesh. We should call this thread "Star Trek". That's because it has gone where no others have before it : ) Grisslehamn: I don't think that Audioquest makes a cable like you describe. At least not from my experience. If you want to try something inexpensive that may give you what you are looking for, try some twisted pair solid core 16 gauge copper wiring. If this sounds too lean to you, try some 14 gauge. Either should give you very clean mids with good treble resolution. The 16 gauge will keep the bass very articulate, but somewhat lacking in total weight. Nothing to blur or muddy the warmth region either. If you want a bit more weight on the bottom end, go to 14 gauge conductors. This will add more bottom end oomph, but may start to smear the extreme treble just a bit. Either way, buying enough raw cabling to build both of these would cost you less than any AQ cabling that i can think of. Hope this helps. As a side note, European's have had a hard time in Florida in the recent past i.e. victims of crime. For some reason, the Germans get it the worst from what i've read. Try to speak with your best "American accent" and you'll probably be okay : ) Sean > |
So Sweden gets super hot too? Must be that my SoCal brain had been filled with stereotypes of what Sweden is like. My Dad has been there a few times and loved it. A good friend of mine really loves the women there. I don't have kids either, but boy would I love to raise some social deviants. Grisslehamn, of the speaker cables I've owned the Audience AU24 brought the midrange forward the most. Cardas Golden Cross interconnects did this to an extent as well. |
To second Gunbei - Miami in August? Sorta like Stockholm in January - What were you thinking. There's a local chain called Sound Advice which sells Krell, Martin Logan etc., and relies on name recognition more than solid equipment selection. The sales geeks don't seem to know too much other than look stunned when you indicate Krell isn't your first choice for processors. Throw the DK integrated at 'em - that'll score you style points! |
Marco and I wear our Douchebag emblems with pride, so anyone can identify us at great distances. My "Douchebag" emblem fell off Dean. I haven't had time to sew it back on, therefore I always have to introduce myself as a douchebag so people will know. Sometimes they just figure it out themselves. Once I was incorrectly identified as a scumbag, but I corrected the MF. Have you been to Miami before Grisslehamn? That's quite a change from Sweden. Heck, just pretty much anywhere in the U.S.A. would be quite a change from Sweden. What ever would want to make you move here, especially with what's going on in the world these days? Marco |
Yes, I'm aware of Primare and Thule. Elac as well. Other than NHT, I've never owned American speakers. Just Italian [Sonus Faber] and British {ProAc]. Marco and I wear our Douchebag emblems with pride, so anyone can identify us at great distances. Grisslehamn, if you find out how old we are, your impression of us will go down even more. |
Yes i think so. Audiovector ,danish speakers are popular here in Scandinavia. Unfortunately we dont have a lot of US speakers here.There are a lot of good US speakers right ? Have you heard of Swedish brand Primare ? Or Danish Thule ? These are quite good components. And the german speaker Elac ? Elak in swedish is the same as being mean. And we have Supra swedish cables and Marcus cables a swedish company in england. Electrocompaniet , yes i have seen it somewhere but cant remember right know. To Jax: how could i know you were a Douchebag ? Only because you introduced yourself as one 8-) |
Sorry Marco, But you're gonna have to make room for your green slant-headed pal, because I was called a douche bag too! We must have gotten the same e-mail. Yippee!! Mats, No problem. We just like to get goofy on people now and then. It's nothing personal, just the way us West Coast US artist types act. We don't believe in growing up. It seems to stunt creativity. As Marco said, my experience and opinions regarding the cables I've tried should be weighed against my system components and the way my green clay ears allow me to hear the music. And since you're new here, I'd just like to point out that no one gets made fun of here more than me, heheh. Well, maybe Slappy does. But we all love him. Have a good one, Dean |
Hey, I got a lovely email from the husband of the Swedish lady myself! Said the same thing as he did to ol' Gumby, but added that I was a "Douchebag" (how ever did he know?!). Guess he couldn't think of anything more original to say. Definitely no hard feeling Motts ol' pal. We're just yankin' your crank to have some fun and blow off some steam. As the good green fellow said, cables should be one of your final considerations in your system for sure. As far as his experiences with those specific cables are concerned (and anyone elses with specific cables), you should also consider carefully the system he was using them with (see his "System" page), and how close it is to what you are using. By the way, if you are abroad, I believe the Cable Company (the link I gave you in an earlier post here) does extend its lending library to international customers. That'd still be my suggestion to you. Either that, or purchase cables used at a price you can resell them for in order to try them out in your own system. Again, have fun! And do look into that upgrade Dean suggested in your sense of humor. Something that brings it a bit more forward preferably. Marco |
You know, I'd been really getting bored by the same old threads for the past few weeks, but this one and ol' Procalc's on the DK have been like a blast of fresh air. I propose that Grisslehamn and Procalc should have to submit new topics once a week so we can keep our knives (and wits) sharp. Thanks Grisslehamn! |
Yes, cables should definitely be one of the last "components" considered. It was after settling on my gear that I was able to compare, then choose the right cables for me. The speaker cables I've enjoyed for their forward vocals are the Audience AU24. They're not the most resolving speaker cables I've tried or the most extended, the Acoustic Zen Hologram II and Ridge Street Audio Poiema were better. But I I like the realism of the AU24's midrange in comparison, so I compromised. There. How's that for an answer Grizzle Ham? Yes, I am rude, but I am occasionally capable of an appropriate suggestion. I also suggest your next component be a sense of humor upgrade, heheh. |
My point is that by posting your system and letting the people on this great forum analyze it, you may find that you jumped to the wrong prognosis. It may be another part of your system that needs upgrading, or that may be causing voices to recede, etc. It may be that a new set of cables will not do the trick with your system. I was part of a thread once where a guy was asking what kind of cables would give him more bass and everyone was telling him what kind of cables to get. I asked about his system and it turned out he was using bookshelf speakers. Cables were not going to fill in that guy's bass for him. So, it is helpful to know the system, to figure out what you want, to analyze where the problem is and whether or not a new set of cables is *really* going to solve your problem. You see -- I just want to help. I'm a giver. Now, I notice you don't even have a set of speakers yet. I've got another rude question; Why aren't you asking what kind of speakers will give you the sound you want? Have you considered that maybe your front end is the culprit? I still wonder how you think cables will bring voices forward. How about this -- why are the voices burried in the first place? Don't you suspect other components? Why limit your analysis to cables? I look at a system as something that needs to be analyzed in its entirety. It all has to work together to give you the sound you want. |
The candy may taste sweet, but you've gotta pick it up from the floor when ol' Goombah drops it casually, with that innocent expression on his sloped face. I'm tellin' you now, don't bend down to pick up the candy. Make haste outta' here while you still have the chance...that is unless you wanna be heretofore know as "Throbbing Gristle"! I say run boy, run! It ain't just the voices that's gonna' be coming forward towards you! Michael Jackson ain't got nuthin' on the Green Man! Marco |
You see GristledPorkchop; and you thought Rsbeck was rude?! You ain't seen nuthin' till you incite the wrath of the green man! You wanna' end up like the poor pony? Just keep on creating more threads about the same subject and pointing your bony finger at everyone trying to help you out. The clay boy'll be on your derriere like flies on a meadow muffin! What was it that Pokey did...it's been so long, I always forget. I think he kept asking after some preamp shootout results. Seems like he started three, maybe four different threads asking the very same question in each one. Wasn't making any friends till the green man took notice. Now he's got a special friend every night! Marco |
I can deal with being thought of as inapproproate. What could be more appropriate than a green clay live action cartoon figure that moonlights as a Photoshop master?! It's what you do to that poor pony, Pokey that is inapproriate! But he ain't talkin' is he? He's too scared, and frankly, I don't blame him! Marco |
The best way to figure this one out is to audition the cables in question in your own system, your own room, and most important with your own ears. I believe The Cable Company offers trial periods on their products where all you'd need is a credit card to try out the cables you are interested in, and return them if they do not suit your needs. You may also have a local dealer who would offer you the same courtesy. The only drawback may be the lack of burn-in. I believe the Cable Company does burn-in their cables. They also cary the Mont Blanc and the Volcano you seem intent on. You can have some fun trying out different cables and report back here when you have come to your own conclusions. Good luck! Marco |