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I heard the Box

I never quite followed what people meant when they commented "All I heard was the box"
when listening to a speaker. 

I experienced it now twice in the past month. Once with some Dynaco A25s and then with a pair
of Electrovoice EV 4s.

My problem is now that hear the box, I can't seem to unheard it. 

These old gems were meant to be used in my office mostly for FM radio background.

So my question is- A load of both of these speakers were sold over many years so
how did people get around this issue?

I am now leaning toward an Andrew Jones dual concentric bookshelf solution.
Those I have heard in my home and sounded quite acceptable at $600 new.


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I always dreamed of meeting another who can actually hear these things.

Chuck, one thing has always cast doubt on your superior hearing abilities for me. It’s your claim that there is no difference between the sound of different tubes. I can’t understand how someone who can hear the difference between his cable elevators with and without rubber bands can’t hear the difference between a current production Russian made Mullard, a vintage Telefunken and a vintage Amperex, for example. Maybe you’ve changed your mind about that. Have you?
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OK. I’m glad to hear that your position on tubes has evolved

Just to make sure that my memory hasn’t become entirely unreliable, I did a quick search and came across this post:
millercarbon9,639 posts05-07-2019 2:01pm

I’ve tried a bunch over the years. Save your money. There’s differences sure but once you get past noisy/old to good/new I just don’t think the remaining differences are worth much. Especially when you can get a whole lot more improvement from something like a Synergistic Research Blue Quantum Fuse or a set of ECTs. Either of which cost about what a set of tubes will run you but you get a lot more improvement and unlike the tubes if you don’t like em you just send em back.

Tube rolling Question | Audiogon Discussion Forum

I’m not saying that you didn’t believe what you stated in today’s post back in 2019. I’ll just assume you didn’t have time for the more nuanced reply you made today. I agree with your assertion that it’s best to seek out knowledgeable help when rolling tubes. Tubes have gotten expensive.

I do think that tubes offer at least as much potential improvement as other tweaks such as fuses. Tweaking is very system and listener dependent. Fuses might be the way to go in one system, tubes in another.


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