Snopro - It can only hurt your wallet so if it doesn't have any feelings then you're absolutely correct. |
Oh, Inna, you're making fun of my madness... bring it on, I'm a proud audio nutcase! Thanks for all your input ;-)
I bow to you, Snopro... You were a very early adopter of this game-changing technology. Well done!
Mceljo, the exploration of possibilities is part of the fun for me... and yes, that can get to be expensive over time! |
I myself am saving on that thing. I am really tired of that garbadge coming from the wall. Can't do dedicated anything, it's an appartment. |
Yes, my unit is the older style without the LED readout. I'm very happy with the unit thou!
I had a dedicated line before I bought the APS, so I don't know if that helps but it can't hurt! |
While this might be true with pure power, it is not true for other regenerators IMO. I have tried the Monarchy Audio AC regenerator which only supports equipment up to 100 watts, so only source and preamps can be used. It is a terrific product for the price $700, did a fantastic job when connected to my CDP (Audio Aero Prestige). But changing power cord from the wall to the regenerator also had a lot of impact on the sound. It doesnt have a battery bank to store the power, so it is like a continuous regeneration happening. Why the power cord before the regenerator matters in this case could be (it is just my inference) because the regenerator itself is nothing but an amplifier with its own power supplies and circuitry. This circuitry also benefits from a better power cord so the power cord before it makes a difference. Pure power is kick ass product, no doubt about it. |
Pani- Yes, the PurePower is different. The stored power available on demand in the massive batteries is probably the reason the dedicated lines, the Maestro outlet and the expensive power cord from the wall to the 1050 did not show any audible difference. IMO of course.
What I really like is that this regenerator allows high power amps to not only be connected to the unit along with source components, they actually end up performing so much better! I went back to the research I had done before my purchase and I remember this excerpt from their website helping me make my decision:
"The PurePower AC regeneration design provides something you might not expect from a power solution. Many power filtering and conditioning products are routinely accused of limiting the current flowing though them, thus starving the power amps with their need for lots of instantaneous current on demand. Testing shows how the PurePower actually has the capability to deliver more current that even a completely unfettered and unfiltered household outlet. In the Bryston equipment test measurements shown above, the 9B SST demanded AC to produce the required output to the speakers. The Amp drew 3.88 amps at its peak demand. When powered from the PurePower 1050, the amp was able to draw 5.6 amps at peak! That's almost a 50% increase! This is possible due to the nature of our AC regeneration technology. One of our primary goals is to be able to provide for maximum current variation on demand without allowing the sine wave or voltage level to be adversely affected. While you want voltage to be rock solid, noise to be at a minimum and the sine wave to be pristine, you also want to be able to have the most current possible available exactly when it is needed. The more instant current change you can provide without affecting any of the other power variables, the better your system can perform. "
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I have a Purepower 1050 and I'm still trying to determine if the power cord feeding it makes a difference or not. I know it shouldn't. |
Foster 9, Try inviting a friend over, putting on a very familiar track at an involving level, closing your eyes and having him/her quietly unplug the power cord from the wall and back in again a few times without telling you when and determine if you can hear any difference between the expensive PC cord and no cord at all.
If you hear a difference of any sort, it means that something from the 1050 on back (pc cable, dedicated line, outlet) is able to affect your system. If you weren't able to tell when your assistant unplugged or plugged back in, the 1050 is doing it's job. Have fun! |
Let me tell you people a disturbing news. I heard that newest Purepower units are even better. So what are you going to do now? |
Inna, Part of this obsession, to a different degree for each of us, is the reality of the never-ending upgrade. Technology will not stop its progress because I just bought an expensive component... So, I like to ask the dealer or company how long the current version has been around and when is the next model coming out? The key for me is knowing its inevitable and not getting too upset.
BTW, I just got my 1050 a few months ago. If there's a new version that replaces it already... heads will roll! No, wait... that negates everything i just said. Uh, never mind. |
Well, even if I heard wrong I am right anyway. There will be a better model from this company or another one.
Yes, never ending upgrades; strugle for perfection. Good luck to us all. |
Thanks to everyone who participated in this thread... It got somewhat tense at times, with some strong opinions bumping up against each other but overall, it was instrumental in exploring and answering the question I posed to my satisfaction.
Yes, it cost me a few hundred dollars to find out, but for audiophiles, that's just part of our expensive pastime, isn't it? I don't regret getting dedicated lines and high end outlets, and eventually, I will probably put a high end power cable between the wall and the 1050. Why? because I'm nuts, and an audiophile, and how could that ever hurt?
An audio friend whom I greatly respect swears that he hears a significant improvement when replacing a stock cable from his turntable motor with a $1000 power cord. I haven't tried it yet myself, but I said, in a somewhat snarky tone, "Now wait a minute, Buckeroo, the electrical path ends at the motor... the only thing connecting the motor to the turntable is a rubber belt, which as far as I know can't conduct a signal. How can it make a difference?!" "I don't know what to tell you," he said... "It just does."
Bottom line: In whatever way you can, from full out dedicated lines, to really expensive AC Regenerators, or even an upgraded power cord... clean up the juice coming into your system and you'll be amazed. I was unprepared for the difference clean power made in my system.
Sometimes, I sit in my sweet spot just shaking my head in disbelief (like last night, while listening to the amazing Sonny Rollins' Way Out West LP) thinking how lucky I am to have this great hobby.
Glad you guys are a few keystrokes away when I need a fix (so to speak). |
Inna, try breaking the pill in half. |
A dedicated line will only help the sound. Go fo it.
I'm fortunate, I had room in my breaker panel, I put in 4 20 AMP dedicated lines when I build my sound room.
Joe Nies |
Thanks to everyone who participated in this thread... It got somewhat tense at times, with some strong opinions bumping up against each other but overall, it was instrumental in exploring and answering the question I posed to my satisfaction.
Yes, it cost me a few hundred dollars to find out, but for audiophiles, that's just part of our expensive pastime, isn't it? I don't regret getting dedicated lines and high end outlets, and eventually, I will probably put a high end power cable between the wall and the 1050. Why? because I'm nuts, and an audiophile, and how could that ever hurt?
An audio friend whom I greatly respect swears that he hears a significant improvement when replacing a stock cable from his turntable motor with a $1000 power cord. I haven't tried it yet myself, but I said, in a somewhat snarky tone, "Now wait a minute, Buckeroo, the electrical path ends at the motor... the only thing connecting the motor to the turntable is a rubber belt, which as far as I know can't conduct a signal. How can it make a difference?!" "I don't know what to tell you," he said... "It just does."
Bottom line: In whatever way you can, from full out dedicated lines, to really expensive AC Regenerators, or even an upgraded power cord... clean up the juice coming into your system and you'll be amazed. I was unprepared for the difference clean power made in my system.
Sometimes, I sit in my sweet spot just shaking my head in disbelief (like last night, while listening to the amazing Sonny Rollins' Way Out West LP) thinking how lucky I am to have this great hobby.
Glad you guys are a few keystrokes away when I need a fix (so to speak). |
Too bad my Nottingham table's motor has a captured power cord. Maybe I could use an adapter to be able to add a good power cord. |
Inna, I trust you had a nice holiday.
If you don't already know about it, Nottingham offers the Wave Mechanic optional power supply which regenerates the AC going to your deck's motor. It's a bit pricey but I've heard good things about this upgrade. |
Alonski, yes, I know about the Wave Mechanical motor controller. I will surely get it in the future, from the UK for almost half the price here in the US.
But first I need that Purepower thing for the entire system. |
