How did you get into vinyl?


I’ll start with my story:
The roots probably go back to the mid to late 90's when I got into the retro cocktail thing. I started throwing old fashioned cocktail parties with Martinis and Hi Balls and Manhattans and spinning those Retro Lounge cocktail mix CDs with Luis Prima and Martin Denny and Si Zetner, etc.

I've always been a classic jazz fan (Coltrane, Davis, Rollins, etc.) and been into the music of the Rat Pack, so this just became an extension of that. I then started collecting CDs of the artists that were featured in the Retro Lounge collections, along with classic jazz, blues and vocalists. It was very rare for me to purchase, or listen to anything recorded since the 1970s, though I do have a pretty good collection of 80s and 90s rock, it’s just I haven’t been adding to it.
A few years ago my live-in girlfriend and I split up and I gave her the furniture and took the opportunity to completely redecorate the place the way I wanted to- mid century modern or, as I called it, space age bachelor pad. I bought a bubble chair, Naguchi tables, ball clocks, Eames era stuff, etc., etc.- I even got an old pinball machine and bar. I was truly living in the 50’s-60’s.

Last June, I was poking around a flea market in Hell’s Kitchen looking for retro stuff, and I saw a Voice of Music HiFi console from 1957 for $45. I bought it, not sure if it was working, but knew it would look cool in my place. When I got it home it worked perfectly. I had picked up some 50’s/60’s lounge type albums from a tag sale for a buck apiece, just for decorations, and when I got the record player home, I found that it worked and the records sounded very cool. Now the VOM was definitely not audiophile, but it was all tube and these records sounded very appropriately retro on it. That was it- I was hooked on vinyl!

I started collecting vinyl in thrift shops and on Ebay. I noticed the VOM lacked bass, mainly due to the small single speaker that it had. I then saw a bigger VOM console on Ebay that had a 12”, two 8” and two 4” speakers. I got it for $250, and it sounded much better. I have an audiophile digital system that includes an Audio Aero Prima SE CD and top of the line Paradigm speakers, so I knew the limitations of the VOM unit, but I found it was all I was listening to because of the things that many of us love vinyl for- the covers, the ritual of playing the albums, the warmth and musicality of vinyl and tubes. I then got to thinking how great it would be if I built a truly audiophile vinyl system with a good quality TT and tube phono stage and amp. I also want to dig into the VOM and upgrade some components, like the caps, and check the resisters (I already done tube rolling with Mullards and Telefunkens).

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I got a VPI Aries 3, a BAT PK-5P phono stage, a Hagerman SUT, and a NOS Dynavector Karat 23R MC cart. I also got a VPI 16.5 RCM. In the meantime, I have accumulated several hundred LPs and remembered that I had a few hundred more albums that I had stashed away over 25 years ago! I plan to get a second tonearm wand for the 10.5i so I can put a mono cartridge on it.

I have now fully entered the insane world of vinyl, and could not be happier! Obviously, my taste in music (and all things retro) is perfect for vinyl. Besides the “Lounge” (sounds better than Easy Listening) LPs, I have purchased some essential 180-200 gram reissues- Kind of Blue, Time Out, Steely Dan’s Aja, etc., and have just subscribed to the Music Matters Blue Note 45 reissues. What I love about vinyl (in no particular order):
The ritual that goes with the playing (cleaning, turntable setup, constant tweaking)
-The covers
-The nostalgia factor
-The fact that I can play albums that I owned when I was in high school
-Shopping for LPs at used record stores, thrift shops, tag sales, and Ebay
-And most important- the sound!

Long live vinyl!
raylinds
I'm under forty (barely)I was about a senior in high-school (1987) when CDs started to became widespread. Up until then all we had was vinyl too. In fact, I dj'd on our college radio station and they didn't get cd players installed until 1990. You had to queue to the track, hand spin to the first notes, then back the record off 1/2 turn to give the plater time to come up to speed when you turned it on. That was fun.
01-25-08: Gaslover said:
"Even in the unlikely scenario vinyl were to make any sort of a comeback, there would be the unfortunate digital pollution somewhere in the recording or mixdown chain. The possibility of being able to purchase purely analog LP's on any mass market scale is remote, other than the specialty labels currently doing this. We are dinosaurs, albeit smug and happy ones."

Yes, but it's not as dire as you may suspect. DSD at 5.6MHz is truly incredible. I don't mind that in the recording chain, at all. In fact, I'm archiving my D2D vinyl in 1-bit DSD at 5.6. Now all I need is a music server that can handle that. There's little hope that there'll be a 5.6 server but maybe DVD-A level will show up in the next year. I'm watching and waiting.

Lots of people are declaring DVD-A dead, but I think it's open format nature may just help it survive. I'm getting great results recording vinyl at that level and creating my own DVD-As and/or downconverting to Apple lossless to get it into my iPhone for travel. It's incredible.

Dave
It's all relative. A quick story... Back in '83 I took my Godzilla to the Vegas C.E.S., along with it's designer. He wanted to hear the Godzilla A/B'd against John Iverson's new Eagle 7A. A true war of heavyweights - amps AND designers. Within less than one minute the Eagle emerged victorious, hands down. It was a humbling moment to say the least (I had just purchased the Godzilla for $3000 - quite a sum in those days!). My point here is that 5.6MHz may appear to be incredible and I am sure it really is; perhaps the ultimate comparison would be to A/B it against a pure analog direct to disk source like something from Sheffield Labs. At any rate that moment of truth back in '83 still haunts me to this day. I have not been surprised by ANYTHING in this hobby since that day. But I will try to keep and open mind. Thanks Dave.
Raylinds : As a child my mother taught me the basics of playing 78's and I spent time spinning discs for my younger sister. Fast forward to the plastic 45 and the explosion of the Lp in the middle 50's(age 10). Lps, at that time ,cost a load $4-6 bucks when compaired to a weeks worth of grocery's for a family of 4 @ $ 22-29 green-ones.

It wasn't till the early sixties when the differental of price vs value changed with the invention of the Discount Store(s) selling selected "Top Forty" Lps for $2-3 dollars a pop. All of this paralled Presley ; the stereo console, record players , and radio units quickly followed by the the mass market Stereo Receiver and The Beatles -- Bamb , Bamb I was hooked.

As a teenager I started working odd-jobs to support collecting the BritInvasion later experimenting with Western, Jazz and Classical. By now I was hooked on vinyl and continue to this day. The good news is that in my community I'm known for collecting Lps so frequently others that want to rid themselves of the orbs literally drop them off at my door. Rare clean vinyl and trashed , I love the treasure hunt moments of looking thru the boxes.

R : Never forget that Record Cleaning in particular Steam Cleaning sure improves the ear-candy experience.
01-26-08: Gaslover said:
"... My point here is that 5.6MHz may appear to be incredible and I am sure it really is; perhaps the ultimate comparison would be to A/B it against a pure analog direct to disk source like something from Sheffield Labs."

Interesting that you should suggest that Dave. The very first cut that I recorded on my Korg MR1000 hard drive, DSD recorder was a cut from Sheffield "King James Version" featuring Harry James and his band in a stunning recording.

I'm modding the Korg to improve the inputs' SN ratio. Listening through the low level noise of that hobbiest unit I have no dcubt that a pro-quality DSD @ 5.6MHz could equal D2D. It's that good. Unfortunately, we can't get recordings like that very easily, unless we do our own (in the works).

BTW, I can't believe how cheaply those Sheffield D2D go for on Ebay. I've got most of them; otherwise, I'd be stocking up. Crystal Clear had some great D2Ds also. I'm glad I bought them while they were available fresh.

Dave
Dcstep - Virtually all of those Sheffield D2D's you own were a result of myself and lots of others back in the 70's and 80's... enjoy! Hope you have copies of S-10 (vol.1 and 2). Your collection would not be complete without these. Gaslover
Crem1 said:
"R : Never forget that Record Cleaning in particular Steam Cleaning sure improves the ear-candy experience."

Thanks to your posts on the steamcleaning thread, I started doing this. My SteamFast SF-227 arrived Fridayand I spent the weekend cleaning records. Steam is definitely the way to go. Thanks for the inspiration!
01-26-08: Gaslover said:

"Dcstep - Virtually all of those Sheffield D2D's you own were a result of myself and lots of others back in the 70's and 80's... enjoy! Hope you have copies of S-10 (vol.1 and 2). Your collection would not be complete without these. Gaslover"

Nice to meet you Gaslover. Are you a producer, engineer or what? Thanks for your efforts.

Do you think demand is growing enough to do it again? I just bought a new German D2D and another from Analogue Productions. I'm still looking for great D2D disks.

Dave
I'm 28. It was a cheap way to buy music when I was in college (in LA). I've always loved old stuff, not just music, and the sort of time warp that happens when you hold an original item that brought another person lots of joy in a whole other generation. (Brand new reissues, no thanks.)

Bargain bin vinyl and a class on the history of rock took me a long way. The collection, obviously, has grown in size, quality and depth since then. I'm just now starting to pay more attention to my system to try to get the best sound that I can out of my records, but it's still much more about the tangible item than anything else for me. (As well as the thrill of the hunt, the "novelty," the fact -- fact! -- that records are much more interesting than bits of data...)
Well...

It was a tight squeeze, but a little talcum powder finally did the trick.

Now that the party is over how do I get out of it?
Just stay as you are Dekay, we'll bring out the gimp for you.

Zed: Bring out the Gimp.
Maynard: But the Gimp's sleeping.
Zed: Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake him up now, won't you?

Pulp Fiction
When I started collecting music in 1968 (when I was 12), vinyl was the only way to go. I used to love buying records, flipping through the bins in the record department at the old neighborhood E.J. Korvette's store, taking them home to unwrap, read (and re-read, and re-read) the covers and liner notes, and finally lowering the stylus into that first delicous sounding groove.

I now have over 1000 CD's, but I listen to my 250 (or so) vinyl LP's with more enjoyment that ever before. I'm now using an NAD 533/RB-250 arm/Goldring Elektra set-up to drive a Rogue Cronus integrated amp (dig those tubes, baby !!) and Vandersteen 1C speakers. My vinyl sounds absolutely wonderful !!

The thing that bugs me, however, is the prices of new LP's. C'mon, $30 or more for a new vinyl LP ??? That's nuts !
No wonder this new generation of music lovers is only downloading MP3's. If records were more affordable (via Acoustic Sounds, MusicDirect, etc.), there would be a lot more vinyl lovers out there.
Dave - Neither one. I started a long and fruitful career in Quality Management due to my attention to detail at RTI back in the 70's. Have worked in aerospace electronics, precision machining, etc. Semi-retired now at 51. Don't know if there is enough demand to launch more DD's... it would take something like a ressurection of Sheffield to pull it off. I know Doug Sax still runs The Mastering Lab...
Gaslover, Analogue Productions is the nearest in spirit to Sheffield that I see today. Unfortunately, their budgets seem much smaller, limiting their D2Ds to old timey blues artists. Well recorded, but not my favorite. I forget the German label that I just bought an extremely well recorded jazz trio on, but the music was great and the recording first rate.

I'm older than you, happily working as a consultant to financial institutions. I bought all my Sheffields new, back in the 1970s and 1980s, along with all the available Crystal Clears and a few odds and ends from other D2D producers.

Dave
In the early 80's, which was also the early days of cd's, I ran onto a little publication called "the absolute sound", which was big on vinyl and anti "digital" in every form. I sent an AR turntable to Memphis to have it modded by the Underground Sound, which was the subject of an article in A/S. I had that tt for quite awhile, lost it during a bunch of moves, and went back to cd's and had no intention of going to vinyl until I ran onto the vinylnirvana website. There was an AR AX for sale, complete with the now very well known George Merrill mods, the former owner of the now defunct Underground Sound. Dave at vinylnirvana helped me set it up with a Rega 250 tonearm and Ortofon 30 cartridge, and it sounds great. So now I'm back into vinyl! I had lost all my records, so I'm starting all over again, against the advice of some of the 80 plus postings I started with my plea to stop me from this insanity! I'm having fun, though, although vinyl is more expensive than I remembered...