How did you get into vinyl?


I’ll start with my story:
The roots probably go back to the mid to late 90's when I got into the retro cocktail thing. I started throwing old fashioned cocktail parties with Martinis and Hi Balls and Manhattans and spinning those Retro Lounge cocktail mix CDs with Luis Prima and Martin Denny and Si Zetner, etc.

I've always been a classic jazz fan (Coltrane, Davis, Rollins, etc.) and been into the music of the Rat Pack, so this just became an extension of that. I then started collecting CDs of the artists that were featured in the Retro Lounge collections, along with classic jazz, blues and vocalists. It was very rare for me to purchase, or listen to anything recorded since the 1970s, though I do have a pretty good collection of 80s and 90s rock, it’s just I haven’t been adding to it.
A few years ago my live-in girlfriend and I split up and I gave her the furniture and took the opportunity to completely redecorate the place the way I wanted to- mid century modern or, as I called it, space age bachelor pad. I bought a bubble chair, Naguchi tables, ball clocks, Eames era stuff, etc., etc.- I even got an old pinball machine and bar. I was truly living in the 50’s-60’s.

Last June, I was poking around a flea market in Hell’s Kitchen looking for retro stuff, and I saw a Voice of Music HiFi console from 1957 for $45. I bought it, not sure if it was working, but knew it would look cool in my place. When I got it home it worked perfectly. I had picked up some 50’s/60’s lounge type albums from a tag sale for a buck apiece, just for decorations, and when I got the record player home, I found that it worked and the records sounded very cool. Now the VOM was definitely not audiophile, but it was all tube and these records sounded very appropriately retro on it. That was it- I was hooked on vinyl!

I started collecting vinyl in thrift shops and on Ebay. I noticed the VOM lacked bass, mainly due to the small single speaker that it had. I then saw a bigger VOM console on Ebay that had a 12”, two 8” and two 4” speakers. I got it for $250, and it sounded much better. I have an audiophile digital system that includes an Audio Aero Prima SE CD and top of the line Paradigm speakers, so I knew the limitations of the VOM unit, but I found it was all I was listening to because of the things that many of us love vinyl for- the covers, the ritual of playing the albums, the warmth and musicality of vinyl and tubes. I then got to thinking how great it would be if I built a truly audiophile vinyl system with a good quality TT and tube phono stage and amp. I also want to dig into the VOM and upgrade some components, like the caps, and check the resisters (I already done tube rolling with Mullards and Telefunkens).

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I got a VPI Aries 3, a BAT PK-5P phono stage, a Hagerman SUT, and a NOS Dynavector Karat 23R MC cart. I also got a VPI 16.5 RCM. In the meantime, I have accumulated several hundred LPs and remembered that I had a few hundred more albums that I had stashed away over 25 years ago! I plan to get a second tonearm wand for the 10.5i so I can put a mono cartridge on it.

I have now fully entered the insane world of vinyl, and could not be happier! Obviously, my taste in music (and all things retro) is perfect for vinyl. Besides the “Lounge” (sounds better than Easy Listening) LPs, I have purchased some essential 180-200 gram reissues- Kind of Blue, Time Out, Steely Dan’s Aja, etc., and have just subscribed to the Music Matters Blue Note 45 reissues. What I love about vinyl (in no particular order):
The ritual that goes with the playing (cleaning, turntable setup, constant tweaking)
-The covers
-The nostalgia factor
-The fact that I can play albums that I owned when I was in high school
-Shopping for LPs at used record stores, thrift shops, tag sales, and Ebay
-And most important- the sound!

Long live vinyl!
raylinds

Showing 7 responses by dcstep

With a few notable exceptions, we all seem to be boomers. Nothing wrong with that, but if I were marketing vinyl that would be important to know. It's good to see a few younger people join the thread, but I'm surprised that there aren't more.

Dave
Gaslover, Analogue Productions is the nearest in spirit to Sheffield that I see today. Unfortunately, their budgets seem much smaller, limiting their D2Ds to old timey blues artists. Well recorded, but not my favorite. I forget the German label that I just bought an extremely well recorded jazz trio on, but the music was great and the recording first rate.

I'm older than you, happily working as a consultant to financial institutions. I bought all my Sheffields new, back in the 1970s and 1980s, along with all the available Crystal Clears and a few odds and ends from other D2D producers.

Dave
01-26-08: Gaslover said:

"Dcstep - Virtually all of those Sheffield D2D's you own were a result of myself and lots of others back in the 70's and 80's... enjoy! Hope you have copies of S-10 (vol.1 and 2). Your collection would not be complete without these. Gaslover"

Nice to meet you Gaslover. Are you a producer, engineer or what? Thanks for your efforts.

Do you think demand is growing enough to do it again? I just bought a new German D2D and another from Analogue Productions. I'm still looking for great D2D disks.

Dave
01-18-08: B2sc said:

"There was nothing else except 8-tracks!"

I'm older than you guys, since 8-tracks were yet to be invented. ;-)

Dave
Well, when I bought my first system, in 1967, it was either vinyl or reel-to-reel, so I did both, starting with a Garrard changer and Sony r-to-r. I had a Scott integrated tube amp and some no-known-model Jensen speaker. It all sounded pretty good for a sophomore at Florida State.

Somewhere in the '80s it got harder and harder to buy vinyl, so I bought a CD player and started buying CDs. I was AC/DC for a while, but put the turntable away in the early 1990s after a move left me with little LP storage space. (Thank you Lord for letting me keep all those great LP, particularly all the D2D and "audiophile", Lyrita, Mercury, Shaded Dogs, etc.)

I just got back in last August, jumping off the relatively deep end with a Pro-ject RM10/Sumiko Blackbird with Pro-ject Tube Head and Pro-ject Speed Box SE. My old records floored me, sounding much better than they'd been on my old Lux DD TT.

I also got into the reissues, particularly the 45 rpm and the 180 and 200 grams, plus as much new stuff as I could get from Nora Jones, Diana Krall and others. I love it.

I'm not haunting too me used record stores because, fortunately, I bought well in my younger days and kept my collection in good condition. I've got about 1200 LPs, mixed between classical, pop, jazz and miscellaneous.

Viva la vinyl,

Dave
01-25-08: Gaslover said:
"Even in the unlikely scenario vinyl were to make any sort of a comeback, there would be the unfortunate digital pollution somewhere in the recording or mixdown chain. The possibility of being able to purchase purely analog LP's on any mass market scale is remote, other than the specialty labels currently doing this. We are dinosaurs, albeit smug and happy ones."

Yes, but it's not as dire as you may suspect. DSD at 5.6MHz is truly incredible. I don't mind that in the recording chain, at all. In fact, I'm archiving my D2D vinyl in 1-bit DSD at 5.6. Now all I need is a music server that can handle that. There's little hope that there'll be a 5.6 server but maybe DVD-A level will show up in the next year. I'm watching and waiting.

Lots of people are declaring DVD-A dead, but I think it's open format nature may just help it survive. I'm getting great results recording vinyl at that level and creating my own DVD-As and/or downconverting to Apple lossless to get it into my iPhone for travel. It's incredible.

Dave
01-26-08: Gaslover said:
"... My point here is that 5.6MHz may appear to be incredible and I am sure it really is; perhaps the ultimate comparison would be to A/B it against a pure analog direct to disk source like something from Sheffield Labs."

Interesting that you should suggest that Dave. The very first cut that I recorded on my Korg MR1000 hard drive, DSD recorder was a cut from Sheffield "King James Version" featuring Harry James and his band in a stunning recording.

I'm modding the Korg to improve the inputs' SN ratio. Listening through the low level noise of that hobbiest unit I have no dcubt that a pro-quality DSD @ 5.6MHz could equal D2D. It's that good. Unfortunately, we can't get recordings like that very easily, unless we do our own (in the works).

BTW, I can't believe how cheaply those Sheffield D2D go for on Ebay. I've got most of them; otherwise, I'd be stocking up. Crystal Clear had some great D2Ds also. I'm glad I bought them while they were available fresh.

Dave