Horn based loudspeakers why the controversy?


As just another way to build a loudspeaker system why such disputes in forums when horns are mentioned?    They can solve many issues that plague standard designs but with all things have there own.  So why such hate?  As a loudspeaker designer I work with and can appreciate all transducer and loudspeaker types and I understand that we all have different needs budgets experiences tastes biases.  But if you dare suggest horns so many have a problem with that suggestion..why?
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Open your mind and ears and give a horn system a unbiased extended listen.. I think most never do so before they comment negatively and rely on hearsay and bias to form opinion. 
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phusis and johnk,
So true. As in all pursuits in life, there are multiple ways to achieve very good results, although those results may exhibit different strengths and weaknesses that appeal to different tastes.
To stand on a hill and fly a flag for one technology as "the ultimate" while defaming another just shows a lack of global understanding of the way different technologies evolve.
I couldn’t agree more.  Even a term like “imaging” is very subjective, and depends on the program material.  I currently have a diy system composed of front loaded horns that cover the entire audible range, all horn loaded (not a hybrid).  It’s very similar to John Inlows designs on his website.  Do they image well?  It’s complicated.

Stereo separation is excellent.  It’s a joy to let people hear “Get Lucky” by Daft Punk for the first time on these.  They smile from ear to ear, and comment on all the different guitar parts that seem to come from all different angles.  Same is true for Bohemian Rhapsody, and all the vocal parts.  

Their presentation is different than anything else I’ve owned.  Anything recorded in a large, or semi large venue sounds very convincing.  The Trinity Sessions with Cowboy Junkies transports me right to that church where it was recorded, with all of its reverby goodness.  Eric Clapton Unplugged is also very compelling on these.  With large venue, and live performances, the walls in my room seem to disappear.  Large orchestral arrangement sound great; jazz trios image well to my ears also.

If I had a gripe about imaging it would be in regards to recordings that portray an intimate setting.  A solo vocalist with a piano or an acoustic guitar.  It’s still enjoyable to listen to, but it does not sound like the person is sitting on a stool right in my living room.  It sounds like a twelve foot tall presentation of that person if that makes sense.  Is that good or bad?  I don’t know.  Depends on what you like.

Electrostats are also outrageously fun, but don’t image everything realistically.  I owned a pair of Martin Logan ReQuests in the past, and had the privilege of listening to some of the flagship Quad ESLs that had been rebuilt.  I loved them both!  Pink Floyd’s DSOTM gave me goose bumps.  But, again, when it comes to a solo performer it did not sound like they were right in the room.  It sounded more like the Sound emanated from somewhere near the tip of my nose.  That’s fun, and interesting, but feels artificial.  

When it comes to solo performances, the most intimate, performer is in your room type presentation, some well designed back loaded horns are the best I’ve heard.  A few very expensive direct radiators also.  That being said, neither of these are my favorite across the board for all music style.

In conclusion, no one style of speaker does all things perfectly.  I am having a great time with my horns, and don’t feel like they suffer from honky, coloration.  All the components are made from 3/4 mdf that rigorously braced, so dampening doesn’t seem to be a factor.  All my observations above are subjective obviously, ymmv.  Keep the tracks spinning!
 I design loudspeakers not just horns. I also collect restore manufacturer loudspeakers not just horn based. I do have a nice pair of Dynaudios I pulled out of my loudspeaker collection and just finished listening to for a few days in my main system. They have strengths one is imaging but imaging is thin airy on my horn systems image seems more solid and real but with a wee bit less detail.                                                                           The Dynaudios emphasize issues on recordings  and are very selective at what sounds great on them the horns just churn out near real sounding music no matter what genre emphasizing the humanity and soul of music. Still the Dynaudios are about 1-75th the weight of my main horns and that they are enjoyable at all and at that size is a bit amazing.Why I keep them.  I have owned heard designed many dynamics and Dynaudio drivers  are not as fatiguing as lesser types but after horns they do sound more like a music box less like a orchestra.
Hopefully if this thread continues there will not be any trolling, just satisfied and happy horn owners. However, maybe a new thread with a different title, saying something like " To all horn owners ". Enjoy ! MrD.