Holographic Soundstage ?


I would like to share my observation and hopefully get some input from people who have the same interest.

My system consist of Wharfedale Opus 3 , Krell KRC-3 preamp, Krell KSA 150 amp, Chord Qutest DAC and a computer with JCAT USB EX running Roon/with LPSU from HDPlex.
I mainly like holographic soundstage and would be able to achieve a very good 3D soundstaging with my current Krell setup.
I decided to try out tube amp a couple days ago because I read through the internet and everybody told me that tube amp always have better holographic soundstage and 3D imaging comparing to SS amp.
So I order a Raven Blackhawk MK3 from Raven audio with 45 days home trial just to try it out. I was expecting a very holographic soundstage that will blow my Krell out of the water.
Well, I was so WRONG. The Krell combo actually has a deeper and wider soundstage comparing to the Raven.
The Raven also has some very weak bass comparing to the Krell which is more punchy and tonally rich textured bass.
I cannot understand why it happens. I am always under the impression that tube amp will always provide more holographic soundstage. Obviously, In my set up the Krell is superior when it come to 3 dimensionality.

I will keeping trying out the Raven Blackhawk in the next couple of weeks and if things are not improved. I am ready to return the Raven and perhaps trying out the other tube amps (or solid state amps) that can beat the Krell combo.

If any one has some idea of such a product, please let me know. I am looking for an upgrade right now.

viethluu

Showing 1 response by atmasphere

@viethluu  @jjss49  is correct, it appears that the KEF loudspeakers are not a good load for this particular tube amp. If you look at the speaker you see that has a dual woofer array- so its nominally a 4 ohm load in the bass.

For this reason you should be using the 4 ohm taps IMO/IME. But its a simple fact that speakers designed this way are not intended for tube amps, which don't do well on 4 ohm loads. This is because the output transformer is less efficient on 4 ohm loads and not only will run hotter (absorbing amplifier power) but it may well lose as much as an octave of bandwidth on the bottom end!


If you really want to hear what tubes are about (and to also get lower distortion out of your Krells, which won't hurt) you would need to have a speaker that is at least 8 ohms in the bass to make a more valid comparison.


Put another way I suspect that because of the load of your speakers you are for more likely to get good results from solid state than tubes, but even solid state suffers because while it can drive the load easily enough, to do so it makes more distortion, which obscures detail (including soundstage information).