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Help with system overhaul What would you do....

Frustrated with hodge podge set up.
I presently have b&w htm2 center 602's l/r, marantz sr5004, paradigm seismic 110 sub, oppo bdp83.
My plan was to get b&w 805's l/r and rid of the 602s then upgrade avr to rotel 1560 and live happily ever after. well all that came to a screaching halt when I went to a totem dealer and heard the forest and the sig ones for the first time. I was never happy with the sound that my eclectic components made, so I read and read lots of reviews and threads here on audiogon about favorite speakers ect...
I really liked the Totems so now I just have to pick the right speaker for me, simple? its not.
The other speaker that stood out in the reviews as a worthy contender for the Totem, was the Merlins tsm mmi according to some of you but unfortunatly I never heard the Merlins..see what I mean.
The good thing is that my earlier frustrations gave way to total confusion, is that good? now I'm really frustrated.
At the dealer, The Totem forest were hooked up to an Arcam avr400(90w per)sounded great, the bass out of the speaker was tight and precise, I was very impressed with the Arcam's power the only attribute I have to judge sounds is that I'm a musician that loves and recognize great sound.
My plan is to get an Arcam avr500/600.
I love the totem signature one but dont mind spending more so that I dont have to upgrade again and again, I was interested in getting the Totem "The one" which had great reviews by some of you. I also want to upgrade my sub to possibly an REL R528 the dealer said that if hooked up to main speakers it will enhance the speaker's mid range (the sub was my idea so not sure).
My family room is almost square 20x19 12-14 feet ceiling (slanted)I have an open floor plan.
As you can see I need help.
I will get rid of all my present equipment except for the oppo.
What would you do.
Thank you
Roger
tesseract86

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tesseract86 OP
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Mceljo,
Thank you, I appreciate your input,
For sure I've received some great advice here from the experts and I'm reassessing which way I want to go.
Thanks to all
Roger
tesseract86 OP
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Allchemie,
Thanks for your feedback, I was starting to think that no one uses AVR's anymore.
The avr600 uses class G amps.
Arcam did report that an upgrade to hdmi 1.4 (3D) will be available this year.
I was so impressed with the sound of the Totem Forest being driven by the Arcam avr400(90w) wether it was bass, mids great sound, I feel that Arcam avr600 will be way sufficient to drive most speakers, I will probably go with "Totem The ones" will have to hear them first there not cheap ($3,500)for the center I think the best they have is the signature one.
Article from Arcam website
http://www.arcam.co.uk/news,arcam-announces-3d-upgrade-strategy_65.htm
Thank you
Roger
tesseract86 OP
156 posts
 
Thank you so much for your responses, the concensus from you guys is definitly weighing towards separates which I can understand, but thats why I picked the Arcam avr600 which is 120w per channel of real power not fudged and as I understand it has very good components that made it an alternative choice to separates(maybe not?)
Yes you're all right about my present avr being outclassed by the b&w, so I will take your advice and try a new avr with my existing speakers before I decide on other makes.
OK, so my budget is about 10k or so for three front, surround sub and amp also will use proceed from sale of my present components and I'm flexible on budget but not looking to spend alot more, I'm retiring (63) and just want a good system to enjoy movies and music in that order.
I'm finding it hard to say "avr" you guys gave me a complex lol.
so what separates should I consider for my room size (20x19 approx open floor plan)? If I was to go that route.
Thank you so much to all for your advice what do you think about the Totems, Merlins vs b&w?
Roger
tesseract86 OP
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I got it Arni, I am dumping my receiver, that was a decision I made before posting here, I am considering separates but right now I am still leaning towards the Arcam avr600.
First and foremost I measure quality of sound with my favorite music, regardless of what anybody else expects, if I like what I hear in music it will be good enough for HT.
Thanks
tesseract86 OP
156 posts
 
My nephew just got a Rotel amp 1575(250w)and 1570 sound processor, for approx 5k (not expensive) sounds pretty good with his b&w 802D, I will listen to it next week at the dealers.
Thanks guys.
tesseract86 OP
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Audiodude1aol,
I totally agree with you, a friend of mine (sound expert) is coming friday to assess my family room because I have issues like the wall on my left is all glass its a decent size room in an open floor plan so I'm not sure that the room would be better off with towers or monitors. I will not do anything till he checks it out.
I just want to clarify that I am not comparing avr and separates there's no comparison obviously, I'm merely suggesting that a humble set up like mine may be fine with the Arcam.
As all of you have made it clear regarding receiver sound, I too agree that most AVR's played in two channel(stereo) sound pretty bad, but for my simple system I dont think that I would be loosing quality with my avr pick.
The arcam avr400 that I heard and liked has a big brother avr600 that has a very impressive review, it makes for a very interesting read to say the least.
Thanks
http://www.arcam.co.uk/_ugc/file/avr600wsr-web.pdf
tesseract86 OP
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Sthomas12321, wow awsome stuff at great prices too
Its just too bad that here in Ft lauderdale there are very few dealers and so many speakers that I would love to hear.
Thank you for the suggestions.
tesseract86 OP
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Ricred1, I wish that I could find a dealer period, with the kind of money your spending on your gear you better trust your dealer lol, well with my budget I can maybe afford the grills of the wilson sophia's if there was such a thing.
I guess I better take my budget back to the drawing board, but the truth is I'm happy with my hearing level 10-15k.
Your sounds system must really be something to hear.
Thanks for sharing
tesseract86 OP
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Ricred1, I was in the Air Force as well from 1966-70 Air defense command and SAC. Glad to know a fellow veteran.
I was a lead guitarists for the Jaguars a band in Forest Hills Queens, NY, I briefly got into sound system. Then went through a few commercial brand speakers and moved to b&w now the bug has got me again and dont know where it will take me but I want to start with decent sound.
I agree that sound preferences are individual.
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