HELP Electrocompaniet stole Christmas


What a mess:
After finally deciding that spending money on the latest EMC-1 parts mod, I contacted Electrocompaniet's distributor back in October to arrange to bring my EMC-1 MkII to him directly in PA so as to avoid RT shipping risks and expense for this 50 pounder. All was set for a Christmas week mod, as I was to be in NJ visiting my relatives that last week.
I called on Christmas eve to arrange a drop-off time, and was told that Christmas Day noon would be fine, but that I had to arrange the deal through a dealer! Yikes! So I remembered Fathers & Sons and called them, arranging for the paperwork and profit to be credited through/to them. Fine. So I drove 2 hours through a nasty winter storm to arrive at Warshaw's house, where he said he'd NOT perform the mod if my EMC-1 didn't have a serial number on it, as there was a grey-market guy in New York who sold a few of these this year. I assured him that mine indeed had a serial number, was produced in spring '01, and bought used by me in summer '01. He said OK, and lugged the player into his house, saying he'd call me in a couple of days to pick it up. Great!..............
I returned to NJ and watched the storm intensify....
Two days later I called to arrange a pick-up hour, and Alan told me that he did NOT perform the mod because the player had been originally sold by a Danish dealer, and NOT through him, so he had made a decision to NOT support any players not originally sold thorough him. No warranty repars, parts, nor mods!..............
I was stunned, couldn't convince him to make an exception since he had never asked me to provide a serial number beforehand, and I went through a total of a half-day of driving through a storm to accomplish this mod.
He just told me to come pick it up at my convenience. I glumly arrived on Saturday and retrieved my untouched puppy, where Alan said that unfortunately I had to share the victimization of the gray-market. I asked if I should contact a Danish dealer to see if a board-swap could be done (of course thinking he didn't really know the answer), but he thought that Electrocompaniet wouldn't support my player either! I asked with some incredulity what was going to happen with all the players that people have when they move from one country to another (!), but he said that this policy was the only way they have of penalyzing the gray market.... I suggested that in THIS CASE he should have installed the mod because of his lack of due diligence in assessing the production/sales history of this particular CDP, ESPECIALLY given my enormous effort in delivering it to his doorstep on Christmas Day.... I left sadly but gracefully.
WHAT SHOULD I DO? I contacted the Danish dealer but he's not responded. Should I contact Electrocompaniet directly and try to arrange a board swap or purchase the parts mod "kit" and instakllation directions (I'm pretty familiar with boards and soldering)? Should Alan have acted differently? Isn't the world getting small enough so that internationally-sold products should have protected lives independent of sales point?
PLEASE HELP!
A Happy and safe New Year to all!
Ernie
subaruguru

Showing 7 responses by onhwy61

Based upon the supplied info it's clear that the distributor is not the smoothest of businessmen. If grey market goods are such a problem, then he should have very clearly and at the beginning of the mod inquiry stated his restrictive policy. That being said, I'm not sure that Ernie has anything legit to complain about. He purchased a used item and presumably got it at a good price. As the purchaser should he not be responsible for knowing which manufacturers support purchasers outside authorized channels (used and grey market) and which do not? It's an added hassle finding this info out, but as this thread shows, it's worth doing.
Subaruguru, in your e-mail to Per Abrahamson why did you twice refer to this Audiogon thread? Remember, this thread is fill with heated statements by several people that they would never purchase EC products. I guess if Abrahamson now intercedes and makes you happy those same people will change their minds and US EC sales will go thru the roof. That would be a win/win situation for everyone. Move over cheese, it's now "the power of the Agon forum"!
Zaikesman, thank you for acknowledging that I have a right to my opinion. I respectfully acknowledge that you have a right to yours. As far as I can tell the sun will still rise tomorrow if we disagree.
I guess it's only human nature. People want the low prices available from internet based sites such as Audiogon, but they also want the level of service offered to customers who buy new from a bricks & mortar store.
EC's customer is not the consumer, but the distributor. It seems that they are putting their customer first.

Subaruguru has a problem because he purchased a grey market product. If he had an US authorized unit, then the distributor would have performed the upgrade. I think the real lesson here is when buying used, know what you're getting and do your research. A careful buyer should get the product's serial number and contact the manufacturer for their service policy regarding used products.
Zaikesman, you need to familiarize yourself with a typical distributor/franschise agreements. These agreements are very accurate in reflecting the relative power of each party in a particular market place.

Subaruguru purchased a grey market product. Immediately prior to his purchase he could have contacted EC or it distributor, determined his purchase was a grey market good and found out EC policy on service issues. For whatever reason Subaruguru did not take these steps. In an open marketplace information is power. If Subaruguru had had all the info he could have cancelled his purchase or maybe he could have pressed for a lower purchase price. It would have been his informed decision to take such a risk. As much as some people think it's unfair, in an open and competitive market there is a penalty for not being fully informed. I guess it's human nature to not only want the low price benefits of a free market, but to also want some downside protection from ones own decisions.

BTW, in a completely unrelated action, I have been boycotting all Sony products since March, 2002. Everybody is invited to join my crusade. Together we can bring that corporate giant to its knees. AUDIOPHILES OF THE WORLD - UNITE!
Zaikesman & D the M, please point to the specific statement(s) where I am supposed to have defended the actions of the distributor. The intent of my posts is to state that any buyer has an obligation to themself to do their homework when purchasing expensive equipment. Please see my 1/1 posting to see what I actually wrote about the distributor's actions.