Has anyone used the new Innuos 2.0 Sense music app? Compared it to Roon?


I compared the two as I am a lifetime Roon customer.  I prefer the sound of the new Innuos Sense music app.  More natural and less electronic or digital sounding.  Not day and night, but better. My big issue is Innuos Sense does not seem to keep playing music, like Roon, when the album is complete.  Roon had a Radio switch that played artists similar to the artist as a continuous stream and I loved it.  Heard many new artists I loved this way.  
Anyone know if Innuos Sense has a similar setting? I can’t seem to find it. 
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I was using a Schiit Eitr with good results before converting to USB after adding a 10m clock to my Antelope Zodiac Platinum. On SP/DIF you are limited to 24/192 with no DSD and don‘t have the benefit from slaving the server to the dac under the asynchronous USB protocol. This is why Innuos opted for USB or Ethernet only.

Using the Zenith MK3 as both Roon server and endpoint over-taxes the low powered CPU chosen for noise and distortion issues by InnuOS, particularly if used with DSP. In direct comparison the Sense app has substantially better SQ, albeit at the price of lesser user friendliness.

The fundamental difference between Roon and InnuOS is in philosophy: whereas Roon believes in high powered, complex sound shaping, InnuOS pursues minimalist and purist design: low powered processors and maximum attention to suppressing RMI/EMI and ground level noise intrusion. This has direct implications on software coding: Sense is designed to minimise CPU usage whereas Roon sees CPU usage as uncritical and uses complex plug-ins such as DSP to increase user friendliness.

@sns 

Trouble with that is that the more powerful the processor the higher the noise level…

@sns,

other than CPU noise clocking matters at least as much. Depending on the connection chosen you need to either clock the dac in USB asynchronous mode or both dac and server with superior clocking through the same device. Unfortunately all connections between dac and server as well as clock connections have their own jitter/noise issues so that an optimisation only on the cpu is insufficient. Roon in most implementations adds a further device as you need renderer and server, further exacerbating the clocking issue. This is why current design thinking seems to converge to integrated server/dac/attenuator solutions with external power supplies

There is a real religious war going on about CPU power. It kind of reminds me of SETvs SS wars in the ‘70s. What needs to be appreciated, is that the effect of each approach has direct impact on synergy throughout the system. For those who care, the Taiko Extreme Thread on WBF explores this in endless and glory detail. Overloading a low power server with Roon is not the way to go. @charles1dad: +1