Gas Ampzilla II vs Bedini

Which Bedini?? Small class A or a bigger one? I use to own a Bedini 25/25 and Ampzilla II. The little bedini had a VERY smooth, liquid, seductive sound. Some bad recordings actually were not hard to listen to with the bedini. The only caveat I had with the bedini, it seemed to have a shallow soundstage...i.e, not as deep as other amps. The midrange of the Ampzilla was very accurate and sounds to me like todays very expensive amps. Saxophone, vocal, piano...spot on. The Ampzilla has deeper bass than the bedini...but the bedini sounded more tube like in the bottom end....seductive again. The highs of the bedini were to die for...the ampzilla...little transitory (spitty) on the top end. Hope this helps...if you are looking at these amps I would try to find a Sumo 9....it is somewhere in between these two in sound. Larry

Thanks for your response ! Yes, I actually thought the bigger bedinis because of my diapasons confirm your request. The ampzilla II is strong enough to easily drive the Diapason. but the Bedini 100/100 or biger brother would be sufficient. I just don`t know which one? I'm thinking about is the new Q series, but there is no information on the net. Do you think it would be worthwhile to try out the new Q series? I find them very easy to Bedini but it does not change anything I mean deterioration in the quality of sound ! The ampzilla II Reference and Reference thaedra preamp would be a great match to but it`s more expensive !
Marcell

I have a rebuilt example of all the GAS gear except Godzilla. The best by a significant margin is the 256wpch. GAS 500. The 80wpch. Son Of Ampzilla is better than the 200wpch. Ampzillas, regardless of which version. I also own a 100/100 Bedini but have owned several different ones over the past 10 years. The GAS gear all have a similar signature as do the Bedinis. I've had the 25/25, 150MKII, 250/250 and as I stated, still own the 100/100. IMO, the GAS gear is a notch above the Bedini. They are faster with more low level resolution/extension, better bottom end/control, livelier mid-range. However, I found the opposite to be true regarding Apfdirtdoctor's take on the Bedinis. IMO, they have a huge sound stage. So much so that you are engulfed in it! Also, I find the top end of the Bedinis lacking in resolution with a little more sibilance than what I would consider acceptable by today's standards. Tonally beautiful but fatiguing when turned up loud. The GAS gear on the other hand have no such issues. Very fast, fine transients. By no means spitty or grainy. Great imaging. Easy to listen to turned up loud. Rebuilt/ upgraded GAS gear rivals anything out there.

I've heard most of the Gas (owned a son and grandson) and only the Bedini 25/25. I agree with Apfdirtdoctor about the sonic signature of the Bedini and comparing to the original Ampzilla. Except I thought the original ampzilla could get a little ragged when pushed.... modded on the other hand, I've heard the Ampzilla and son both modded, these are wonderful amps and agree with csontos, that they both were clearly better than the Bedini... Lastly, to also comment on Apfdirtdoctor, I have a very heavily modded Sumo Nine that is just excellent. My particular amp, although rated at 60/120, does 90 watts to 8 ohms and 170 to 4. I hope this helps, Tim

Which Bedini?? Small class A or a bigger one? I use to own a Bedini 25/25 and Ampzilla II. The little bedini had a VERY smooth, liquid, seductive sound. Some bad recordings actually were not hard to listen to with the bedini. The only caveat I had with the bedini, it seemed to have a shallow soundstage...i.e, not as deep as other amps. The midrange of the Ampzilla was very accurate and sounds to me like todays very expensive amps. Saxophone, vocal, piano...spot on. The Ampzilla has deeper bass than the bedini...but the bedini sounded more tube like in the bottom end....seductive again. The highs of the bedini were to die for...the ampzilla...little transitory (spitty) on the top end. Hope this helps...if you are looking at these amps I would try to find a Sumo 9....it is somewhere in between these two in sound. Larry

I should have mentioned that my speakers were Infinity 2.5s, RSIIbs and Ess AMT Heils...thus very fast "zingy" tweeters/midrange which when the ampzilla was played loud on maybe not the best Recordings...maybe this was my spitty sound. Mr. Jim B would say his amp was showing their deficiencies ;) Also, the lack of depth on my Bedini 25/25 was very frustrating...it sounded out of phase??? We tried it with several dipole speakers (Acoustat/Martin Login CLS/Magnaplaner).....never with conventional drivers in an enclosure?? To me the updated GAS / Ampzilla sound is very similar to the newer BAT designs.... but at a much lower price ;)

O... I am sure you will think the 25/25 couldn't drive the above speakers...but at normal "low" listening levels it's sound was very apparent...basically a warm, liquid non fatiging seductive tube ? sound.

I spend a fair amount of time with a friend who drives Shahinian Hawks with a Sunfire 600. He likes to play symphonies at real world volumes while maintaining a rich textured soundscape. The Sunfire handles it with ease and grace. Absolutely beautiful presentation from top to mid to bottom. No sign of strain. His system is by far the most realistic I've ever heard. These amps come up used on a fairly regular basis on eBay. Do a search and see what others have to say. The concensus is fairly universal.

Thank you very much for Everyone ! Yes, in fact I think the bigger Bedinis like 100/100 or 803a or classic 100/100 classic 200/200 and the Gas line tha Ampzilla II and Thaedra preamp . Before I had the Bedini 25/25 1 meg and with my obelisk sounds wonderful ! But now I have a pair of Diapason and you guys and believe it or not they are driven by a Linn classic !! Very impressive sound from a compact cd player ! I know my Kora amps are even better it was another discovery , but from a small compact cd player I`m telling you wow !! So maybe the best choice is the Ampzilla with the Thaedra ? Specially the reference upgrade would be the best !

Unfortunately, there is no review by the new Q serial amps no one is interested spectators I`m just wondering why ? The price is cheap for brand new class A amps ! Who knows maybe later someone will be able to tell us !