GaN amps: Peachtree or LSA Voyager?


Peachtree 400 and LSA Voyager GaN amps: Does anyone have direct experience with both of these amps? Can you comment on any differences that might exist in sound? I know the internals are supposed to be the same but even if that is true implementation can make a difference. Both are highly regarded by those who own them.

Might also be helpful if you listed the rest of your system (Pre and speakers).

My current system is: Bricasti M3 DAC; Rogue RP-7 (NOS) pre; Bel Canto Ref600M amps; Fyne F1-8 speakers.

Thanks in advance!

markmuse

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@markmuse thanks for sharing your first impressions on Voyager vs AVA 225s. This is particularly interesting for me since i still didn't decide to choose Voyager GaN 350 or Orchard monoblocks. Your impresión is fundamental. Just saying roughly, based on the impression that Atmasphere monoblocks left on you, how would you compare them with the Voyager? 

Did you feel any irregularities/distortion, dependencies of the high frequency reproduction on the speaker load? 

I am a scientist, a bit too far from audio engineering though. I have no time and also no desire to get deep enough into audio engineering science.  Nevertheless, this is a challenging field for me, because of my passion to music. Regardless of all the speculations and above debates, not being able to verify the arguments of each of you, my intuition inclines me towards @kuribo and ​​​​@atmasphere judgment. In fact, my current homework is to clarify for myself, which class D amp would be a best choice for me, or if it rather would be better to wait for a while until some clarity will come. I already tried a number class D amps helped me to learne something, and would like to find even better paths towards the same direction. 

@kuribo , let's look at this more philosophically. God determines our destiny. He arranged  this sale at this moment, a kind of a hint. We cannot have always what is the best. In my life, i have missed much more important things. Sometimes we have to experience a worse to see that there exist better, all is relevant. At this stage, perhaps, i am not ready/do not deserve "the best", perhaps i need to "suffer" a bit more with an imperfect class d sound. Between us, i am curious how this load dependent frequency response will behave. 

@kuribo , if you were going to buy now a class D amp, which one(s) would you choose? Or, do you think that much better class D designs may appear in near future, and hence would you rather wait until then? 

@kuribo thanks for the answer. 

@ricevs i sincerely --love-- your posts. do you also build amplifiers? 

I may end up with buying the Voyager, for a very simple reason that it is on promo. Sometimes difficult decisions come out easy. The life if full of contradictions. God helps us to take final (correct) decisions. 

Can’t go wrong with the LSA or Peachtree at <$2k.

Sure. Did you mean <$3K?

No, in fact i didn't know that. I din't pay yet, I will ask.

Still, perhaps the sale is worth of risk? 

@ricevs i have already noted that i love your posts. And I am liking them now even more. You gave a most difficult task - to stop ego. If I am too weak to do so, at least i can admire your belief. 

...And look at the last post suggesting again Orchard Audio GaN amp, once I am to order the Voyager (am I taking a correct decision?) . I have no idea how either of the two amps sound, and I don't completely trust measurements (the nature is more complex than classical (non-quantum) physics can describe). Distortion is no good but perhaps is unavoidable for more complete and realistic sound reproduction? 

How these two amps sound is more important for me, and i don't have that information. And one is on sale, the others are not. 

nope.   You can find both for less than $2K

@mbolek , this sounds good. did you mean used, otherwise,  do you have an idea where? 

@markmuse , thanks for letting us know your choice. Please keep us posted on your first impressions on the Benchmark amp!

@kuribo , i didn't know that both of you are dealers/producers. I still did not take a final decision. I don't believe that audio is religion, and i don't care too much about religion since it is basically converted to a bureaucratic institution. Still,i think that  religion helps to people. I rather try to believe that  God is everywhere and that he has to do with everything. 

@smargo Try to concentrate on the features that you like in the sound of your system that will help you to enjoy how the music sounds in your system. I try to enjoy both, music itself and sound quality simultaneously. But it is more or less common to get accustomed to a good SQ that you may have in your system. I found it particularly useful  to compare between each other how different amps, cd players, DACs  sound. Then you may note what is that you really like in a particular audio equipment. If your components are good, you will always find a pleasant feature  of every unit. Otherwise, you may get read of that unit. This kid of comparison may help you to appreciate more and value the SQ that a particular component and the whole system gives you. I have three audio systems and like the sound of each of them in different ways. When i feel that a particular gear no more meets my demands, i try to replace it, but not necessarily with a more expensive gear. I changed a number of amplifiers during last years, class A, Class AB, class D. This helped me to understand more the nature of the sound and the features of each unit of gear. I sold a few of my amplifiers. Each of them i liked in some particular ways. As i like music, I like women, in general. In each individual woman i may like some particular things, different for different individuals. looking at a number of charming women, it might be difficult to choose one, you may like each of them in different ways. Something similar happens with audio gear when you really learn to value each individual unit. Once i tried different amps, i am starting to understand why my 20 year old push-pull tube integrated amp is so good. I needed to go through all these amps to understand that. You may also simplify your system. I personally found that not necessarily separate components give better overall result and started to appreciate integrated amplifiers, just an example. Having three different audio systems i can compare the differences. Not necessarily all  recordings sound better in my main system, which costs a number of times more than the other two. Sometimes i replace expensive amps with a cheaper ones with a success. If you want to know, just tomorrow i expect to receive  a relatively modest Nuprime ST10 amp. Finally, i took this simple choice because a local Nuprime dealer has proposed the amp, a slightly used one with a very reasonable cost. I think it should not be a terribly sounding class D amp. 

So try first to enjoy really  what you have. Then you will really know if you need to change something. The joy is your treasure. Do not force yourself. 

@ddonicht please keep us posted on your further impressions on the Voyager and tell us more about your system.

Enjoy the new amp

Wolter has sale on the Voyager and ships next day after payment. Perhaps it may be worth of risk if he lets you it for 2k. It's upon you.

I read good things about SET 120 amplifier. The monoblocks seem to share the same design strategy with more power and perhaps some refinement. Shouldn't be a bad choice. Keep us posted.

@tweak1 thanks for the update.

Price-range is important but SQ is much more important. Even so, Orchard mono blocks are i think arround $1500, i don't really need much power and apparently they sound clean. I may still be tented to take Voyager for about 2k.