FUSES, Finally!?


     I have been adamant about avoiding special fuses, because of the lack of empirical studies.  Here is my question:  What would be something not too expensive that would be a good start.  I use three dual mono Audire amps (for Woofs, Mids and Tweets, and Subs, each of the six channel having four fuses.  I would not not want to spend thousands, even if I could, just to experiment.  My heat sinks do unplug, along with the outputs, and I could try just one channel or one amp.  Paul of PS mentioned what they use, and that might eventually be a possibility, but what do you guys (and gals?) think I should do, to just to convince this ageing skeptic?  Also, each channel of my amps has one single, dedicated computer chip that regulates the filling of the 4 26,000 mf caps (per channel), which might make any difference less than a design that allows a flood of electrons into the tank, presuming that might matter.  DanV
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Fuses do NOT contribute to the sound in any way AT ALL.

Okay. Wire does not contribute to the sound in any way AT ALL. I guess. If you say so.  

Just one question: Then what does?
Two of the most closed-minded tin-eared "audiophiles" in the universe. Notice neither one of them will come out and say whether or not they are able to hear any differences, or evaluate when one thing is better than another. Instead they hide behind innuendo and insults. Oh, and credentials. Of all the discredited things, to still believe in credentialism. Two peas in a pod.
Sure seems like it couldn’t hurt. Until you learn it, and then listen to a lot of stuff, and start to realize there’s a lot more going on. Then when you look around and see how many guys think that because they have learned a few terms like impedance they know how things work. There may come a point where an over reliance on looking at things from a technical point of view does way more harm than good. I reached that point decades ago, and the more time goes by and the more things I see the more sure I am its the correct view.

Just look at the above post. The OP danvignau started this thread a couple days ago. Instead of ordering some of the highly recommended SR Blue or Orange fuses and finding out for sure if they work or not he’s wasted a tremendous amount of time chasing down imaginary technical fantasies.

I say fantasy because the posts above are entirely in these guys heads. Not only are they imaginary, they are hypothetical! That’s literally what the word "if" means! Some guy proposed a simple test. But instead of actually doing the test they find it a whole lot easier to IMAGINE doing the test, and then IMAGINE all the long list of ASSUMPTIONS the false conclusion of which is - SURPRISE! - don’t need to spend money.

What a load of bull. Sorry. Imaginary bull. I’m imagining a big steaming pile like the one Jeff Goldblum stuck his arm into in Jurassic Park. A really big steaming pile of it.

The false assumption- there’s a lot of them by the way, only gonna tackle one - is that all these fuses do is the same as a dead short. A solid copper wire. Whatever. Why? Why is anyone dim enough to think this is all that’s going on?

I’ve got stuff that can be dabbed on any ordinary fuse that will make it a whole lot better. Synergistic fuses have a gray blob on there that they specifically instruct you not to remove. Is no one curious why the gray blob matters? Buy some of their outlets you will find the same gray goo blob on their outlet terminals.

There’s guys with way more experience than me, but even mine is enough to know there’s no such thing as a power supply so regulated to perfection that a power cord won’t make it even better. Well, if a power cord then why not a fuse? Sorry, said I wasn’t going to tackle any of the other false assumptions. Its just such a target-rich environment. Can’t help myself.

Anyway, should be more than enough here to show the time one can waste on techno-blather instead of doing what actually does work right here in the real world, trying stuff and listening to it.
Be aware that just because your amp uses 4 fuses per amp does not mean you will need 8 fuses just to try. When I said try one, I meant try one. You can go one per amp, but unless you have gone the Full Monty with mono pre-amps then you can try just one fuse in the pre-amp. Then try it in whatever source component. Simply not necessary to deck the whole system out. Maybe with some of the cheap stuff people are talking about, where any difference at all is hard to tell. But not with Blue. No way.
Right. Don't know about the bees but Synergistic Blue and Orange are good value for money. Either one of these roughly $150 fuses is approximately equivalent to a $500 power cord. 

Fuses are just one in a very long list of highly questionable things that turned out to work exactly as advertised. What I always do is first listen to how people say they sound. Of course no one hears everything exactly the same. So it should be expected to find people who hear nothing. Also there are people too closed minded to ever try. Also extremely cheap people. All kinds of people who for all kinds of reasons these things make what they have to say utterly worthless. 

So you filter those out. Then you look for people like me, and there are a whole lot of others, who are all saying yes these things are directional, they do work, dynamics, clarity, imaging, extension, across the board improvement. Well then how can you get one for the least cost? The best is occasionally SR has package deals. But not often. Or if you don't want to wait then buy one that will work in an amp.

Because then it will be high enough rating that after you prove it works in the amp it can be tried elsewhere. It may be you have a component they don't work that great in. With me it was my turntable motor controller. Only place it wasn't a big improvement. By trying the fuse in multiple components you'll know. Even though they have a 30 day return, still its nice to try and see if there's some place it works better than others. Then just keep buying/adding until you're in that place.

Contrast the quality of this advice to the triggered haters who have nothing productive to add. That alone should be enough to tell you what to do.