Hope you are feeling better. I too am taking a long time to recover from back surgery. I do not know if you can really separate the Outlets from the dedicated lines. I agree that there is a quietness, a precision that the system obtains from a dedicated line and one of the decent outlets.
" Supercalifragicexpalodoious" Don't think I spelled it right. But I think most will get it.
No. A mighty transformation of the system; like fuses do; No. I have thermal magnetic breakers in my Pass amps. NOS telefunkens in my Steelhead phonostage brought just enough of tube magic to my system for me.
I don't know how many tweeks that I have tried over the years (a lot) but currently I am a happy guy with my current system. Just need to be able to get on a ladder to finish the ceiling treatments.
Thanks for your efforts Best Wishes on feeling better.
Old thread......but I will give my thoughts on this.
Some will say there is no change in sound. Some will say that without even experimenting and base the statements of a hunch.
When I rebuilt my last pair of speaker crossovers, I played the same CD for a week. When you hear a familiar track and there is a vast absence of bass, then a few days later the room is thumping....that’s not my imagination....but that’s only one confirmation.
One thing you need to understand about receptacles, is there is no screw tightening down on a copper wire, it’s merely the prong touching another prong under light spring tension.
I don’t think the Furutech receptacles make it better, I believe the cheap ones make it worse. The goal is to maintain signal purity, this starts with clean power.
So if you want to chime in and basically say it’s snake oil, perhaps you should try it first. Some systems aren’t as revealing, this can easily cloud judgement...but either way....walk the walk before you talk the talk.
I agree, in all audio forums there are always going to be those that voice their opinion without having used the product. Based on speculation or theory they state a thought they have and/or believe. Some time theory is correct and other times theory does not apply to a situation. You also make an excellent point, perhaps their equipment isn't as revealing as they think it is, or perhapes they don't have a good ear for music.
Many times changing components or cables, it could just be a change of sound not even improvement, on my experience it took two good mentors, and many many hrs of listening, before I was able to learn what is change or improvement, sound or music...iam so impatient to wait for the cable or component to settle, then I just jump into conclusion right away wow it's a good cable? When I rush most of the time Iam wrong.Then I realize reviewers take months before they write their reviews...I realize it's good to wait in this hobby....
I personally thought for a long time aftermarket receptacles were a waste. When I built my sound room, I used hospital grade hubbels. Friend told me about the Furutech GTX. I read the factory specs, pure copper, that made sense, and a industry first. Tried one. 500hrs latter replaced the other four. Just one was far from subtle. IMHO all connectors, wires, fuses,outlets, metal type and purity is a really big deal.
Would like to revive this thread as I’m about to purchase a Furutech GTX-D Gold receptacle, with the wall mount and the carbon fiber plate it all adds up to almost $500. My question is how important is the wall mount and the plate? Has anyone experimented and used a generic mount and plate with good results?
It’s my first time to experiment with changing the receptacle so I want to tread carefully as it were. But if it’s really worth getting all 3 (receptacle, mount and plate) I could stretch my budget a bit.
@chipdelacalzada, IMO the largest and best change you will hear is going to be with the Furutech GTX-D Gold receptacle. The receptacle, mounts, and plates will be a very minor improvement.
If you go back to page one I was the second person to respond to this thread. Remember: "Be aware of the extremely long break-in required for the Furutech GTX-D and R/G AC receptacles to settle in and sound good. 300 to 600 hours, but in my opinion well worth the wait. If possible use some other means to break them in other than installation in your audio system".
Also, the suggestion made by hdm: "Refrigerators and Chest Freezers are still the best home option for burning in receptacles. It has much more to do with the surge when the compressor kicks in, which will very often exceed 15 amps for a very short period of time. This will get you much better results than the continuous operation of an appliance that might draw 5 amps continuously. 2 weeks on each half of the receptacle should get you pretty good results. Something like the Audiodharma Cable Cooker will be even better; if you have a dealer that has one it is a no brainer to pay a few extra bucks to have them burned in before shipping".
Thanks for this! I will look into buying a pre-cooked receptacle from Chris from VH Audio since I’ve purchased a couple of things from him already. I’m not a fan of a lengthy break in!
Thanks for the suggestion, I asked Chris of VH Audio on whether I should get the Rhodium vs Gold, he suggested the gold since my Furutech power cord is terminated with FI-28 Gold. I like the warm and laid back presentation of the Gold. The only caveat is that it’s not the most detailed but I’m okay with that.
I own both gold and NCF if you have them pre burned in it will not help much with the long burnin process, I had mine pre burned in. The gold burns in faster. The NCF is a long bad ride at least 600 hours but worth it in the end. The gold highs are rolled off. I ran them in on my system, if I had to do it again I would definitely use the refrigerator.
Perhaps this opinion is not one that is going to be popular...but here it is..
IF you have to burn in something for 600 hours...for it to sound good, then I think something is very wrong. How can anyone remember exactly how something sounds from the past when that memory is now 600 hours old? I have an a’phile friend who owns a ARC preamp with the Teflon caps...tells me it takes up to 1500 hours to burn in and for it to sound good!! 1500 hours...that is several YEARS in many systems running time!!!
Personally, I think that it is possible that a component can sound good from the gitgo and get better as time goes by, BUT IF it sounds poor from the gitgo...and 600 hours later it does not...is this not perhaps an acceptance of the SQ from a psychological perspective after all of that time? Inquiring minds...
600 hours is an awfully long time. I believe time could be better spent doing other things than waiting for a receptacle to 'break-in' and sound like it's supposed to, to each his own.
I agree that the long wait is ridiculous, but many people are willing to do that. I, on the other hand, put the outlets on my Audiodharm Cable Cooker and forgot about the (purposely) for 30 days. Installed them into my wall outlets and they sounded constantly good.
My take on the GTX Rhodium and GTX gold. I had both installed at the same time, burned them in with an Air conditioner, ran for 2
weeks straight under pretty much a full load (had them daisy chained and alternated both outlets. I made the mistake of using them directly out of the box in my music system, they sounded great for the 1st couple of hours, and then sound
went very treble focused to the point that I could not listen to music comfortably, if at all. After doing some extensive listening, I found Gold to be vey natural,
with great tonality, a deep unexaggerated soundstage that
was calmer than the Rhodium. The Rhodium outlet sounded etched,
with a cooler tonality,
with near zero mid bass bloom, and a stage that
was placed further away than the Gold. My main speakers are a pair of Magnepans running off monoblock amps. No tubes or anything else in the chain.... The Gold
won out for me quite easily, the Rhodium
was packed up and sent back to the vendor. Anyone claiming that outlets don't make a difference in sound, has obviously never listened to anything more than a 50 cent home depot one. The people screaming the loudest, are usually the laziest ones, harassing others that actually do the
work.
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