Footers under new speakers


Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B. 

buellrider97

@slaw Having had my first Venture into improving the local environment for the Cartridge Stylus to function in back in the 90's, by having a Platter Bearing redesigned as a Build, I was now on the road to learning about Isolation through Separation.

This Journey headed into Materials and especially materials that have a positive impact on reducing Amplitude (reduction in migration of energies through materials).

Today I have a self produced Supporting System built up from a multiple of materials as Tiers for my Audio System, especially for the Analogue.

The Power Amp's have an alternative Multi Tier assembly of materials, which is very very weighty.

The Digital Source has been sufficiently looked after on a Bespoke Built Wall Shelf, which again has a decoupling from the Wall and has Multi Tier Supports.

Cabinet Speakers also have their own Multi Tier Assembly to support them.

These assemblies in use at the present have evolved over the years, where different materials and separators are adopted, along with different configurations for selected materials>separators. The set up in use is very very effective from a Subjective Evaluation, the tidiness of the End Sound is very attractive.

Occasionally I return a Source to a simple Sturdy Table Support as a retro set up and am shocked at the Crud that is captured within the End Sound.

Today my main interest as Material is Resin Impregnated Densified Wood Board, I am swapping out Materials once valued and am getting benefits worthwhile  maintaining. 

@buellrider97, It seems you're having way too much fun. I have the Oppo 103 without mods other than the Townshend platform, better power cable and interconnects which it responds well to.

With the large number of tubes you have perhaps a simple DIY solution may help. I made some like Herbie's Tube Dampers using spring steel with cassette tape deck pinch rollers which is what I think he used with his early production units. I bought a packet of them online many years ago for peanuts and they help clean up by lowering the noise floor. A friend with a Manley Labs Stingray which uses 12 x 9-pin tubes improved nicely.

@pindac  Enjoyed reading your post above. I appreciate your experience and passion in audio pursuits.

This has been a great thread and I have really appreciated the diversity of thoughts and experiences shared here. @buellrider97 Thank you for sharing your journey so far.

This got me down a bit of a DIY footer project for my Dynaudio speakers that I think I am close to finishing up as a home brew prototype at least. Haven’t installed them yet to listen, but have really enjoyed the back and forth on this thread as inspiration. 

@cbrez , Thank you for your kind words, I give all the credit to the contributors on this thread. For me it’s been learning to think outside the box and “ Contempt prior to Investigation.” You have a nice system. Check out Hilde45 on this thread. He has/had similar gear to you. I’m totally grateful for the help I’ve received. My short term plan is to get my new gear up and running. During the process I’ll need a new equipment rack and isolation for 6-7 items. I’m going to get a few inexpensive items like springs , and isolation pucks and build a few platforms and just experiment. On the pricier side I’m considering Auva and Tough Nutt products. Happy Listening, Mike B.