Finally heard Accuphase


I heard it at T.H.E. Show last weekend.

I was pretty shocked at how bad they were. Of course there are many variables at a show, but they were in more than one room. The sound was so wishy-washy and vague and uninvolving I couldn't get past it.

And I was hearing stacks of like $50k ,75k worth. A $3k Sugden sounds about the same, if memory serves. Or even the $8k Yamaha. More or less. But to spend that money on these amps makes no sense. Just build your own tube amp for $1500.

Whats going on with this brand?

To be fair, I also heard a $300k system that sounded more or less like a good PA system at a small concert venue that costs like, IDK $10k or something. This stuff is making no sense anymore.

clustrocasual

@clustrocasual So much at this show was speaker focused. I was unable to compare equipment due to the layout. Probably more my issue, because this was my first show and I had high expectations.

I had trouble staying in the Audio Note room for more than two songs. I was in the room for all three days, although the third day was essentially a walk in, don't like it, walk out experience. The sound was boring, missing soul, just blah.

I did make a nice show price purchase on a piece of equipment, so overall it was worth my time. Met a couple of vendors/manufacturers that I will keep in touch with and maybe buy from in the future.

@thriftyaudio By the way, I heard AN at a private dealer. I compared these field coils from the show ($65k) with their lowest end speakers of the same shape. I found the lower end ones (around $7k I think) to sound more emotional and soulful. The bass was looser but it just made things more enjoyable and lively. The wood cabinet seemed to vibe a bit more as well.

thought their field coil was sonically denser but not as lively. That might have been what you were hearing.

 

 

Guess, my ears are very different, to me Accuphase and AN are end game setups. Both sound wonderful to me. 

AN to me is a bit overpriced, the gear look bland. Accuphase while also being overpriced, at least looks cool. I will say Accuphase tends to be more on the mellow side, everything tends to be more subtle. 

I read where some people say Accuphase is over priced. I just do not see it that way. Or should I say, I do not hear it that way. They compare to the same level of other high end integrated amps in that price point range. Its possible people are using Yahama and maybe others pricing as a baseline. May not be a fair analysis. I’m a super fan of Yahama as a company that puts out high quality products and can produce excellent HIFI equipment. Accuphase business model is purely laser focused on high end audio gear. Also maybe a thought that Japanese HIFI products are mass produced consumer products and are not producers of serious HIFI equipment. Accuphase, Esoteric, TAD, Luxman and others dispels that notion.

My point of reference are Marantz Model 30, Yahama A-S3200, Accuphase E-4000, Pass Labs amps.

I was at the show too and heard the accuphase line as presented by commonwealth Hifi. I will Not say that they sound bad, BUT it did not sound phenomenal. IMO, they sound as same as most of the vendors at the show. YUP, it does have a steep price. I also tend to agree that i also am enamored by the Audio note line. I guess accuphase as a house sound does not capture me by its performance. I heard accuphase electronics at the the Vendors facility early this year as i was auditioning Devore speakers. The Accuphase amps are very very good gear, but in for me, not my liking.  I am a Pass Lab guy, owning a couple of their amps today. For me, the best sounding are the Gryphon room and the Audio Note room.