Filling the void for better sound



Pursuing audio excellence, or what you need to know when filling speaker stands.

To cut high end audio costs, speaker stands can be bought occasionally as empty constructs and to increase performance, need to be filled with something to help diminish there inherent resonances, or ameliorate them completely. Coupling simply isn’t enough to eliminate that metallic ring one hears when rapping the upright with the off knuckle.

So let’s begin.

Materials list:
Hollow stands
Filler of choice
Scoop
Funnel
Level
Screwdriver
Two by four
Towel

Optional
Larger scoop
Rubber mallet
Teen ager
Gauze
tape
Neosporin

I’ve read all sorts of information on this ‘filling’ process. Different camps say the use of lead is good, others say simple clean sand is fine enough. Still others subscribe to more exotic materials.

True enough I’ve found is that what ever the materials being used the resultant ‘sound’ or characteristics of the empty space once filled, will definitely be altered. I had on hand simple clean sand. Almost sugar sand in its consistency. Completely dry. It’s been drying for about two years or so out in my storage house. The residual bag from another endeavor.

Unless the filler (that’s you) is stout hearted and in a hurry, this process is best done outside. Of course, if you are in a hurry and have a dynamite vacuum cleaner, or just want to introduce a ‘desert’ esthetic to the listening room, some indoor distribution or packing can be done by all means.

I sought the great outdoors and the vistas of nature to top off my hollow speaker holders.

Armed only with some speculative desire, a 50lb. bag of dirt, er, sand, a large funnel, and ripping off the sugar scoop, I hoisted up both the tall speaker stands and stepped out into the wild. I knew almost instantly I was in trouble. It was a windy day. I didn’t mind the wind. It didn’t mind me. It did hate the sand however, doing its best to prevent the scooped up portions from being dropped into the stands. I had to work faster I thought to myself.

The distinct advantage of using sand is the price tag. One can buy enough fine sand to cover a moderate sized yard for about $4.86… or so. Well, maybe not, but its way cheap.

Bearing in mind different sorts of items slipped into the cavity will change the intrinsic resonance my mind wandered. I got to thinking if there was enough space in there to allow for the neighbors chickens. Especially that rooster with the broken alarm clock. Then there was the other neighbors ‘’Ever Ready’ powered, barking machine. One of my ex girl friends. Or some of my old ties as I was dropping scoop after scoop into these sky scraper like edifices. I thought for a long time about using these ‘out of the box’ solutions, but resigned myself to the more mundane and traditional effort.

Don’t count the scoops! There’s little sense in it in the end.

After 22 scoops I set the stand onto the banister of the front steps and while tilting it over this way and that, I rotated it about to further fill the base supports. I also bounced it up and down a bit onto the handrail just to make sure it was being compacted. I figured I was, so why not it?

Much of this exercise I think is just to make us feel better and provide us some aerobic movement so we can persist with our sedentary and quite critical listening sessions, and prevent our hearts from stopping during those “Oh my goodness!” moments within.

Resting the stand back onto the landing I continued scooping. Adding in another 757 more scoops (note – get a bigger scoop next time), I could see the sand reaching the opening. Great. Almost done. OK. Half done. Peering into the gaping mouth of the stand for a time, I noticed a curious goings on. The sand was slowly receding deeper into the hollow. I must not have done a good enough job forcing the contents about into the legs of the base I thought.

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If you have attained a stand which you will be coupling to your flooring with spikes, and the whole of its body is indeed empty, do remember to insert the supplied or aftermarket spikes, and level the stand (s) prior to initiating the filling process. Otherwise, you will need lots more sand.

Continuing on…

Recovering as much of the now spilled out sand from beneath them as I could, my mind went back to the different stuff makes different sounds ideology, and remembering the 3,437 scoops needed to fill the first one I found the incorporation of the more ‘unusual filler’ solutions fascinatingly more attractive. That and the broken record dog next door again fired up his ritualistic barking motor, as it is prone to whenever a leaf blows by his gaze, or it hears a distant tree branch rustle.

My arm now weary, my eyes filling with the fine grit, I wondered…. Is anybody home over there? I haven’t used my brandy new ‘chopper in a hopper’ yet either! I began to whistle, and lowly murmur “here boy, come here boy….”

Naturally I dismissed the nefarious notion and thought more about duct tape and super glue. No. Not for the stands… for the pint sized irritant from Hell next door. Don’t they make glue in meat flavors?

With spikes firmly set, I repeated the process with the second unit, albeit a mite faster this time as I am now, just as Jimi Hendrix once asked, ‘Are you experienced’, yes. Indeed, I am. The task was near done..I thought. More tamping was sorely needed, as I would soon find out.

No pain no gain.

Shifting about the stands revealed some settling of the contents was going on within. Without, some unsettling was going on in me. Enduring the wind, the mechanical mutt from across the way kept up its annoying yapping, and now this? Super. OK. No more Mr. Nice Guy!

Vibrations were in order. The bigger the better.

Take a breath here… we don’t want to scar up the stands, or alter their shape by forcedly pummeling the stands in haste. My first thoughts were to just loft the stand and let it down quickly enough to compact the millions of new residents so I did.

I lifted the now much heavier apparatus a foot or two and dropped it straight down onto the wooden floorboards. One would think this a really simple matter. Pick it up drop it down. Compaction occurrs. Mission accomplished! Great idea.

Just how experienced are you with pain?

You have absolutely no concept of just how sharp spikes really are until one from a sand filled mile high stand has found its way onto the top of your bare foot after plummeting from some immense height. Especially when it is on a hot, windy, critter chattering, sand flying everywhere, Audiophile sweating, day!

Well, either take my word for it, or if you are the curious type and more addle minded than able minded, see for yourself. If not, then add steel toe boots to the preparatory materials list. If so, add Epsom salts and gauze.

Or take a wider stance.

Thereafter, I chose the most readily available tool, my fist. I’m not gonna say I regret using my fist to beat on the first uprights top plate to settle the contents. Not until after the first 63 swats, punches, and slaps. I merely regret not having a rubber mallet or paint can shaking machine. Gratefully fewer bandaids and far less blood letting, was involved this time around.

I kept at it tirelessly until it was completed entirely.

Right there however, leering silently, near ominously …then there stood the second stand awaiting it’s turn at me. Super. Well, I’ve been blessed with two hands so the choice was simple enough. While the right hand was slowly recovering from the throbbing within, I got all ambidextrously mid evil on the remaining tower.

Me thinks it’s in these minor sacrifices we pay our dues for the Audiophile card we carry with such pride. Sorry… but I told ya I went all mid evil.

Pressing onward

With spikes in place, the bleeding stopped and the filling method now a pat routine, tamping down a matter of course, and a new thought on that last matter arose. A hand towel folded over a couple times, and a two by four did a fine job meeting out the remaining prerequisite punishment to lay in the residual fill.

Moderate thumps only are needed for this ‘rudimentary tool in hand striking’ technique. Not following this path will also aid you in taking some added steps.

Notably, the steps needed for going and getting a long screw driver to prise the now embedded spikes from the wooden flooring. Man! Them spikes are sharp.

Unailing the once attached stands from their new mate and dusting them off the job was now done. Using a moist rag e.g., see hand towel above, did a fine enough job to render the now ready to go speaker supports suitable to enter the home once again..

Once filled to the brim one last precautionary step is in order. This one meager practice will be of immense benefit to the uninitiated. Cover the filling inlet with duct tape if there was no plug supplied. I mention this only to reduce the apparently ever increasing aerobics of this affair to a minimum.

Directly after the additional hour or so I spent vacuuming and consequent refilling, I set the stands in place. I’ve also since decided if repositioning is required, I’l just move my chair.

Conclusions….

Many items intended for use by people ihn general, are designed in such a way that a 13 year old can manage them. I would submit when it is required that some added measures be taken to physically embellish or tweak, some prized audio artifact to greater capacities, one seek out said teen ager to continue the pursuit…. Or just buy things that ain’t hollow.
blindjim
Actually, I'm about to though with a concoction I saw online involving PVC.

I need 3 more. A center and two for somewhere else.

These won't be as tall... but far more work.

I wish I wasn't so cheap. Check that.... I wish I had mo dough.
Blindjim, I was just trying to encourage you, as you said, "For my next trick, it'll be power tools and itchy scratchy materials." I thought maybe you'd like to have another go at the stands, seeing as how you were so enthusiastic about it! ;)
BTW

According to Sound Anchors many substances can be used for damping... even cat litter.

When filling up the vacancy it is suggested it be filled as completely as is possible.

Doug ol' boy, thanks for the remarks but you sure lost me there.

My exiting comment points to a no holds barred match with a pair of super chunks and some occasional table bass traps.

As long as we are being opaque.... Is wool the calomine lotion preventative for said endeavors?

Personally, I was thinking aspirartors & teenagers first and foremost.
Blindjim, may I suggest wearing wool while engraving your name, address, phone number, SS#, bank account, passwords, etc. (for security reasons, of course) on the newly filled stands with a Dremel tool? That makes them a physical record in case you accidentally shred your files! You'll have to empty the stands first, of course.
I’ve quit counting the times I've tried to answer your question and provide my gratitude in that thread... some sort of server glitch or perhaps Audiogomne sees fit to dis allow any further remarks from me there.. beats me why...

so..... Thanks for the comments, the foot will be fine soon enough, and the sunburn keeps my mind off it.

Also to all those who posted here thanks much for your input. It is indeed my pleasure entirely, if anyone got a chuckle out of my experience.

For my next trick, it'll be power tools and itchy scratchy materials.
Now that's the kind of posts we need more of. Great story! Making me feel kind of itchy and scratchy all over. Hope the foot's healing up well. This is a good argument for floorstanders!

Marco
Great story Jim
I too went through a similar experience a couple of months ago and yes the spikes sure do hurt (it was me making the noise not a dog). To make the long story short I did fill my stand 3/4 full but in the end I personally like the back post only 1/4 full and the front post empty.

Stand4 with dyn C1's
Superb! Thanks Jim!!
P.S: I once did run a spike into my shodded foot.
Heard no dog bark but some angels sing. Audiophiles are borne to strive and suffer.
Happy listening!

Metralla
Thank You.

Dump some out?

Super.

Savannah... the pooch next door is fine while inside. Let out it only takes a moment or two for it to explode with its incessant yipping. At five or six pounds, wet, I'm sure to miss it.
Great story, mate.

I bought mine welded and filled from Sound Anchor. Next time, perhaps you'll look favorably on this style rather than the "empty constructs".

I hate to say this, but some audiophiles caution against filling them right to the top. It seems you'll have to tip some out. Perhaps you can dump the excess sand over the fence - one good lob and you may score a direct hit on the mutt.

Regards,
rotflmao!!! you got a future in satire, Jim ol'boy. But now I want you to empty them and compare the sand to lead shot, steel shot, and bismuth-coated shot. Or shoot the dog (just kidding). BTW, if you can get your teenager to help w such an endeavor he's better trained than mine!