Ethernet opinions
Hello everyone, I finally got my system setup. I had a few setbacks the past few months. My mom had lung cancer and passed away a month ago. It has been a journey getting my system set up which is part of the fun. I am running Pass Labs XP-12, pass 250.8, and Bricasti M3. My original plan was to run the Bricasti with a EERO mesh network since the modem is on the opposite end of the listening space. Needless to say the EERO mesh would not work and Roon could not see my M3. I was on the phone with Bricasti trouble shooting the issue. I removed my M3 from the system and double checked everything with it hard wired to the modem which worked. I was told I could really use any Ethernet for the most part as long as it’s cat 5 or 6. Well, I returned the EERO and got a 25 foot Ethernet cable from Best Buy for 10 dollars. The sound is much better then I was guessing running a 10 dollar cable, for me it’s deff a temp fix. Especially since I bought two audio quest vodka cables. I am using one of them now connecting the room nucleus to the modem at the moment. I have read a bit about blue Jean cables which seem to hold spec. I don’t see me buying a longer Audio quest vodka cable given the cost. In some ways I feel like I spent more then I should have on the Vodka cables at this point. Opinions please ?
No. Streaming and downloading are two different things. It's rather odd that you keep insisting they are the same.
Ad hominem. It's a logical fallacy that those challenging you "know nothing." |
Yes, you may choose to download tracks from Tidal and Qobuz. Many people choose to do that. Personally, I use Qobuz for streaming. Yes, that involves a cache but a cache is not a download any more than a stream is a download. Downloads cost $$$, so I don’t do it often. The computer I’m working on now is a desktop running Windows 11 and actually has multiple caches. It’s how computers work, but that doesn’t mean it’s downloading. |
No, that is mistaken. "Streaming" and "downloading" are two different things. A entire song does not "download" before streaming begins. In fact, it does not "download" at all, unless you choose to purchase the track and download it. For some reason, you seem intent on conflating streaming and downloading. I’m not sure why, but your insistence only makes your "debate" sillier. Just because there is a cache (extremely common in computing, by the way) does not mean a "download" is underway. |
So you've appointed yourself ... what, exactly? The arbiter of truth? A savior?
With apology to Tom Jones, That's Not Unusual.
Qobuz is a streaming service. Downloads are a pay-as-you-go option, but many Qobuz users rarely if ever actually pay for downloads. They're happy to just stream along. You conflate streaming, caching, and downloading. |
We've made progress if you now accept that streaming and downloading are two different things. If, however, you are going to continue with your word salad and conflate streaming, caching, and downloading as all being the same thing, then you are just being argumentative. The facts here are clear, and you've acknowledged them. Let's move on. |
That is not how Qobuz works, at least in my system with a Bryston BDP-3 and the internet speed you see here. To test this, I selected a track in Qobuz and immediately disconnected the ethernet connection as soon as the music started. I got about 3 minutes of music before the playing stopped. The notion that a track is perfectly stored to cache - or "downloaded" as one user here insists - is simply mistaken. You can easily prove this for yourself but here's a word of caution: the BDP-3 didn't take kindly to the ethernet disconnect. I had to reboot it to regain function. I also rebooted the DAC, so I'm not sure which (or both) accounted for the problem. |
