Esoteric VRDS-NEO not reading discs


I have an Esoteric K-01 cd/sacd player that is around 7 years old.  Recently the transport tray began to have a problem.  It would only open part way on the first 3 trys.  I was told that it needed a new transport drive belt, so I replaced the belt and the tray opened fine.  However, now the laser does not read the disc consistently.  It has played fine for a few hours, but most of the time it reads "no disc" or "disc error."   have contacted Esoteric and there only response is that I need to send the unit to an authorized Esoteric repair center.  They also have told me that the service manual is not for sale to the public.  This unit has been off Warranty for many years.  The cost to send it to the repair center is over $100 each way.

All this trouble for a part that costs around $0.40 for a generic replacement, and $16 for an authentic belt from Esoteric.  This player cost around $20k new and it is  rendered inoperable after 7 years because of the failure of a cheap belt. I do not think I should have to pay hundreds of dollars to have it repaired.  It does not seem fair to me that Esoteric will not help me to fix this problem myself.

What do you think?  Is there anyone out there who can help me to understand what the problem is with the laser not reading discs properly?  I am willing to pay someone for their help.

russ751

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I do not think shipping your CD player to Esoteric for around $200 both ways is too much for a 20K product is unreasonable. Your player has the same transport as mine, the VRDS NEO which is one of the best on the market.  If it is a laser problem, they use a special alignment jig to repair. Most likely in your DIY repair you bumped something in the laser assembly and it now needs to be realigned.    It does have to go back to Esoteric as no one else has that jig.  
 

Think about repairing an exotic car, it’s the same scenario.  I would bite the bullet and ship it out.  Otherwise, you now have a 20K boat anchor.  

@russ751

I believe you said you replaced the belt for the tray.  If the player was reading the disks before you replaced the belt, then it seems to me you disturbed something in the transport.  If that is the case, then it is not Esoteric's fault, wouldn’t that fall back on you?   My player uses the same transport as yours and I have the service manual   Send me a pm with a email address I can send it to.  I will email it to you if you are interested   

 

@russ751, I owned a Sony SCD777ES which was a 50 pound $3500.00 SACD player.  Couldn't be fixed by Sony at 8 years old.  Gave it to my son to scrap the copper in it.  Sony is no better, usually worse for their equipment failures.  Sony also did not support the SACD that they helped bring to market.  Sony Music never did make much of the music available in the SACD format.

@russ751 ,

 

I just sent out both schematics and service manual.  Hope it works out for you.

 

Bob

If my Esoteric UX-3 ever goes south, I will send it to Esoteric in California.  They now have the special jig to repair the transports which they did not have before. 

My Esoteric UX-3 is going on 12 years old and although it has been trouble free, I am very worried about the problems getting them repaired. If and when I need to replace my SACD player, I do know it will not be from Esoteric due to their inability to repair them properly and the huge price increases. I sold Teac for many years and they seemed to be bulletproof, you would think their higher end top tier equipment would be even better.  I truly believe Esoteric is going to lose out on North American sales because of their poor repair services.  TAP Electronics sounds just like Sony in Laredo, Texas where they can’t seem to fix anything right.  We consumers deserve much better.  Too bad the reviewers never touch upon just how horrible the service is. 

They use a 15 amp power cord. I am using an Acrolink PC4030 power cord.  Perrota Consulting gave me a great deal on the used cord.