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Enough is Enough

I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1
emergingsoul
1,167 posts
 

You have an awesome space that's perfect for relaxation and looks to be a very nice system.

I had a similar experience, a girl I dated Felt no romantic attraction to me so I gave up on dating.  The same holds true with your dealer experience.  Maybe you can find a way to recover from your bad experience.  I am still haunted.

ricred1 OP
2,041 posts
 

I decided to keep my Chord Dave DAC and leave my 2-channel as is, but I did order a Trinnov Altitude 16. I want to improve my HT  and be done with it all! 

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wspohn
607 posts
 

90% of audio dealers are the equivalent of car salesmen - they will say anything they have to in order to induce you to buy something.

One local one I used to go to was always touting a particular brand that they represented, saying that nothing sounded quite as good.  When I went back there after a year or so, I found that they had lost that line and were selling different gear. They asked what I was using and then denigrated the same brand that they had been praising before they lost it. 

When I pointed that out to them, they started tripping over their own feet/tongues trying to dig themselves out of their pile of BS and I left, having told them that I wouldn't be coming in again.

Finding the 10% that are actually pleased when they find you what you need is hard, but worth it.

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mahgister
13,095 posts
 

Dealers even the honest one cannot say the truth because they ignore it themselves in most case.

What matters in a market where there is gear pieces at all price of very good design as in the actual market it is not buying an upgrade piece, it is first and last :

---Synergy first,

---Embeddings mechanical and electrical and especially of acoustical controls of the working system pieces /room.

Before buying anything to upgrade...

If you say that to a customer displeased with his system/room and who want to upgrade ,will he buy a new piece ?

It is why i discover this truth alone , pieces by pieces after experiments with a system/room...

I verified it 2 times in 2 completely different room and system...

Gear matter way less than basic mechanical,electrical and acoustical, especially acoustical knowledge...

System price means almost nothing nowadays , save extreme case as low cost one and very costly one  and in some cases not all the time. my low cost system will make many 10 or 15 times more costlier one  shame.

Acoustics ( and basic knowledge) rules audio. Period.

cool

 

ricred1 OP
2,041 posts
 

mahgister,

I agree with your comments regarding the room. I'm working on improving my room acoustics and HT system. 

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