Electrical question


While playing music I noticed my amp fell from 120 volts to 112 when the wife turned the microwave on…they must be on the same circuit..is that going to damage anything?…

charles007100

Here is a great example of how a split phase secondary winding of a utility power single phase 240V/120v transformer works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVamt9IdQd8

Note: Only the unbalanced load of one Hot leg, Line, through a load(s) to neutral , and the other hot Leg, Line, through a load(s) to neutral returns to the neutral center tap of the 240V/120V secondary winding of the Utility Power Transformer.

If both connected 120V loads are exactly the same, zero current (amps) will return on the service neutral conductor to the neutral leg of the transformer. The two identical loads are in series with one another and are fed by 240V.

If one 120V leg to neutral has a load of 20 amps and the other 120V leg to neutral load is 10 amps then 10 amps, the unbalance load (current), will return on the electrical service neutral conductor to the utility power transformer neutral leg.

Pay close attention in the video when the two loads are not equal and the electrical service neutral conductor connection to the neutral bus bar in the electrical panel to the connection of the neutral leg of the utility transformer is open/broken. (knife switch on the transformer neutral wire in the video.)

More common, instead of the connection being open/broken the connection is loose and or corroded and adds a series resistance in the loose and or corroded connection. (Heat in the poor connection caused by current adds more resistance) That will cause an uneven voltage at the electrical service panel from one Hot Leg to neutral and the other Hot Leg to neutral. The Hot leg to neutral with the greater of the two connected loads, the voltage will be lower than 120V nominal. The lesser loaded Hot leg to neutral voltage will be higher than 120V nominal. The voltage differences between the two depends on the connected loads, and constantly changing 120V loads connected to circuit breakers in the panel. 

Example the higher loaded Hot leg to poor connection of the electrical service neutral conductor at the main electrical panel neutral bar might measure 110V. The lesser loaded Hot leg will measure 120V nominal + 10V  = 130V. 

FWIW I have seen this happen more often with multi wire branch circuits where a neutral conductor is shared with two hot conductors. The 3 wire multi wire branch circuit neutral conductor has a poor/bad joint connection.  

(The two Ungrounded Hot conductors must be connected to circuit breakers on opposite legs. One to L1 and the other to L2.) ( Starting, 2008 NEC required a 2 pole breaker or two single pole breakers with a Listed handle tie to connect the two handles together) 

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I wonder how much inrush current for a microwave oven on startup, the heater for the magnetron tube, filling the high voltage capacitor, plus the high voltage transformer. The magnetron tube is directly heated so it's warming up right away.

our over the range microwave/ hood vent fan unit is rated at 17.7KW. 1700W / 120v = 14.17 amps. My 200A electrical service doesn’t even care when it’s running. My central air outdoors condensing unit draws more than that at 240V. Even that load is minuscule to my 200 amp electrical service. 

Having "200 amp electric service" is not necessarily what many people think it is. It means that the utility line coming into your house and the panel it feeds are capable of safely distributing 200 amps. It is no assurance at all that the utility can actually deliver 200 amps of power. 

I had enormous electric service problems when we bought our house. A voltage monitor installed by the electric utility showed that turning on my tube amp brought voltage to zero. Lights dimmed with even moderate loads, such as the dryer. I finally got the utility to run a "beast of burden" test - where a dummy load is connected directly to the utility's feed - and I was getting about 55A. The engineer working on our problem (which also included periods of low voltage) thought that was only slightly on the low side! In the end, it was easier for him to resolve the problem than deal with my incessant complaints filed with the state regulator.

To be fair, I have an especially poor electric utility, although its service quality has improved enormously over the decades. But I'll never forget the frustration of trying to amplify a biamped Infinity RS-1B speaker system with substandard electric power.

I monitor voltage 24/7, 120-121 constant, 1200 watt microwave 116v, microwave and toaster oven together 112v. 

I have a electrician coming today, we will see what’s up..

also is the PS Audio Power Regenerator stuff able to stabilize the power from fluctuating or is that snake oil…