efficiant speaker with good bass?

What didn't you like about the VR-4's?

Legacy Classics may work for you.

I loved the VR-4jr's the most but sold them to "downsize", I also really enjoy the B&W's but I am looking for a change. I am looking for a larger speaker with greater impact, something I miss from the jr's.

Howdy Fish,
The only speaker that comes to mind that meets your larger size, easy to drive with excellent punch is Klipsch cornerhorns or belles, etc.

Hi ! For $1500 you can try Zu Druids. They are very easy to drive ( 101 db - actually after my friend test them they were more like 98 db ) . We drove them with a $100 digital amp. at 10 watts per channel. No problem - it worked like a charm. The characteristics of Druides are : 10 inch. woofer with build in horn loaded supertweeter , very high efficiency , small foot print & and awesome cool look ( a specially in Ferrari red ). Very good in separating different dynamics. Excellent for ROCK.
Happy lisenig !!!

Also, I forgot to mention that I really enjoy my B&W's & would love to stay within the line but don't feel they are efficient enough for what I am trying to accomplish. At this time I don't feel like going for a monster SS amp, I am missing tubes & if I do switch from the Mac it would only be for a tube amp.

How about a nice Vintage pair of Klipsch Forte 2 or Cornwalls...Maybe not quite as refined as some big $ speakers but all else is pretty darn good......

The horns I have heard & some of the Klipsch I have heard tend to be a bit too strident for me.

The Revel suggestion is an interesting one, looks like they might fit the bill. I have never heard a pair of Revel's, how would you describe their "house" sound?

Klipsch KLF-20 & 30's - probably the best rock & roll speakers Klipsch have made.

I'll 2nd the Druid recommendation (my current speakers), but good luck finding a pair for $1500. Also, if your looking for more bass I would 2nd the Klipsch Heritage recommendations, i.e. Cornwalls, LaScallas, or Chorus. All in your price range used.

I've owned the Cornwall's (I & II) and LaScalla's. I regret to this day letting them go. As a matter of fact, I'm on the look out now for nice pair of used Cornwall II or III's to be used in a 2nd two channel system (more than likely tube based). One of the all time great speakers IMO.

I also owned the KLF-30's, but only for a couple of weeks. To my ears they were harsh and hard to listen to, not so with the CW's or LS's. As a matter of fact, except for the Heritage line just about every other Klipsch I've heard sounded a bit harsh (I've not heard many of their recent models).

I'm currently using an Acurus A200 with my Druids with excellent results. Really brings out the bass capabilites of these speakers. The Druids are keepers. Good bass, but nothing like what you will get with the Klipsch (15" bass drivers).

I've not heard the Zu's with tube equipment, but it seems most owners do use tubes for these. However, as Mrjstark mentioned, I too found them to not be quite as sensative as rated. Still very good in this regard.

Jack dotson . I meant used . New ones - I can probably get it for you, for around $2400. I also know that Zu is going to increase they prices - soon .
With Melody, Cybers or CJ they sounded just wonderful. Tubes bring a little extra sweetness that solid state is missing ( at last in Druids case ). Overall great speaker.

I would like to try a pair but I haven't seen a pair used for $1500.00 either. I am sure I will find something, I am still looking at the options.

Fishwater - If you live in New York or New Jersey area, this can be arranged.

Mrjstark, I have been back home to NY the past three weekends in a row, I am in NH.

I can make an arrangements but you would have to let me know a couple days in advance if you decide to do so. Gay live in Jersey about 20 min. from Manhattan. He also knows owners of Zu speakers very well ( he was working with them on the room during HE Show in N.Y this year ). It's very, very possible that if you decide to go with Zu ( anyone - from the Zu line speakers ) he could give you a nice deal. Next week I'm going to Florida for 8 days.
You can email me at www.mrjstark@msn.com if you want to make the arrangements & contact info.