E V Patricians-- JBL Hartsfields- Your choice


In the mid 50's I heard both systems. The Patrician was full sounding and euphonic. The Hartsfield was punchy and bright- seemed to lack bass. Both were K horn designs but I opted for the Patricians.

I used them until I heard a QLS about 25 years ago. Now I listen to a home brew line source that is satisfying.

I guess anyone that has either of the above mentioned speakers probably can't hear above 10K HZ but what the heck.

I just bought a JBL 375 driver, six JBL LE 15 A woofers and as pair of 075 tweeters.

It's time to build an experimental speaker!

If you are listening to a JBL system that uses the afore mentioned drivers, I'd like your thoughts.

Ken
kftool
Weseixas, I did hear those speakers too, but I thought they were TADs when I saw the side by side woofers. I really couldn't tell you anything about that system, though I can say that the speakers did not seem to attract attention to themselves (always a good thing).
Hello Atmasphere,

That JBL speaker seems to be the current rave in the far east. It would have been interesting to hear comments on it's sound.

Baranyi:

Interesting your comments on the JBL Hartsfield . Many moons ago i had the opportunity to hear one , but never did and a shame, it would have been interesting to have heard such an Iconic speaker...

20/20 ,

Regards,
THE CUURENT AND ORIGINAL EVEREST IS NOT A TRUE HORN SPKR AS IT ONLY USES A HORN FOR THE MIDS AND THE SUPER TWEETER. ONLY 96db WITH 2-15'S LOOKING RIGHT AT YOU. AUDITIONED @RMAF09 IN THE KIMBER ROOM AND @RMAF IN A SLEEPING ROOM.IT WAS POWERED BY ML IN BOTH.THE SONY SPKRS IN THE KIMBER ROOM WERE MUCH BETTER THAN THE PRESENTATION BY HARMON. AS TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION OF WHAT TO DO WITH THE S-8 SYSTEM YOU JUST PURCHASED!!! SELL IT ON EBAY IT'S WORTH A LOT MORE THAN WHAT YOU WILL GET OF SONIC BLISS.THE ALNICO MOTORS HAVE LOST 25-30% OF THEIR CHARGE AND WILL SOUND QUITE ANEMIC. I CAN GO ON ABOUT EACH DRIVER IN DETAIL BUT WHAT WAS TOP DRAWER IN 1961, WHEN THIS GROUP OF COMPONANTS WAS INTRODUCED , AND NOW 2010 IS QUITE DIFFERENT EVEN IF YOU ARE STILL A FAN OF HIGH EFF.HORN BASED SYSTEMS AS I AM
Bob,
As you mentioned, the 375 mid driver was great up to 10K and then rolled off. JBL augmented the 375 driver with the 075 in later systems where it was easier to integrate than in the Hartsfield.

The patricians I built used the K horn up to 150 Hz and then I crossed over to the drivers used in the last Patrician 880. The sound was much better than the 800 that used the lethargic 30 inch foam cone woofer.

Ken
JW,

I was traveling for the last few days and had idle time which I put to good use researching on the Lansing Heritage website. I never knew that alnico magnets loose their strength over time, especially 40 or 50 years. They can, however, be re magnetized by a JBL repair facility for about 25 bucks each. That's not too much but the shipping will kill you unless you ship a number of them back via common carrier.

The aluminum diaphrams in the compression drivers also get tired and need to be replaced. New beryllium diaphrams are now available for most compression drivers such as the 375 at about $600 each, new aluminum jobs are about $200.

I learned that the new TAD drivers were designed by the same man that designed the 375. Having said that, the main difference in all of them is the diaphram. Using a different diaphram will enable one to end up with either a 375 which needs a tweeter, or a 376 which does not.

I'm not kidding myself about the sound I'll be hearing after I switch on the music, but who knows. I'm putting these JBL drivers together just for the fun of it and it'll be a lot cheaper than buying an old sports car.

Ken