Does the VPI Aries1 best the VPI Classic1?

I have an Aries 1 Extended with an original JMW-12 arm. I've heard the Classic and Classic 3. Heard all of them with the same kind of cartridge - AT-OC9/II.

IMO, the Aries definitely keeps up with the Classic tables.

To my ear, the Aries is more detailed because it provides a better sense of soundstage and venue. Those are subtle details that are dug out better on the Aries. I do get a slightly better sense of upper midrange texture with the Classics but it is much more subtle than the soundstage differences.

I think any evaluation of the Aries must take into consideration all the different variations to that platform. The big plinth of the Extended version vs. standard size, the multitude of different platters that are available, motor configurations, SDS vs. Variac vs. wall outlet, arms, arm wiring, belts... All can have an impact on reproduction quality.

But for me, the bottom line is that the Aries Extended with a JMW-12 arm is my last turntable. I have no compelling reason to change.

Stringreen - I respectfully disagree. The arm on the Classic should take it beyond the Aries 1, yet the overall quality falls short. Everything else being equal, the edge should go to the Classic if the aluminum platter is a step up. But the Aries 1 still covers it handily.