Does the magnetic levitating platter make all other designs superfluous.No bearings!

This could be a game changer but we will have to see if the high end mafia embraces it or dumps it into the east river after chopping it up into small pieces.Time will tell.

brucegel10-14-2016 2:13am

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moonglum Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 619 posts 10-14-2016 at 09:25am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Well, magnetic levitation is not new but doing this minus a central main bearing probably is. My gut feeling is "East River" but I don’t want to be too premature. My main concern would be that the conventional closed mechanical loop enabling mechanical grounding of the bearing would not exist here. This departure from convention is not unprecedented so it boils down to implementation. Certainly it would mean less noise but the problem for me lies in the fact that you are not only trying to shield the stylus from external interference, i.e. from the support and environs, but that the replay process creates its own energy which must also be "managed".
geoffkait Details Discussions Posts This discussion 23,365 posts 10-14-2016 at 12:04pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Is this a joke? It’s getting very hard to tell. I just got punked over on another thread by some mag lev turntable. Did you get punked too? This sounds more like it’s in the perpetual motion machine category.
milpai Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 2,377 posts 10-14-2016 at 12:31pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete This is from Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/245727224/mag-lev-audio-the-first-levitating-turntable
chayro Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 2,984 posts 10-14-2016 at 01:37pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete yes, send money to some guy in Slovinia. Good idea.
geoffkait Details Discussions Posts This discussion 23,365 posts 10-14-2016 at 06:14pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete There is no balm in Gilead. A perfect isoaltion methodology or technique actually doesn’t exist. The negative stiffness, the mag lev, the mass on spring, the air bearing, they all have their Achilles heel (s). And they tend to allow the lowest frequencies up into the thing being isolated. That’s precisely why the LIGO project to detect gravity waves took so long to develop a proper isolation system. But it doesn’t mean you don’t try.
brucegel OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 151 posts 10-14-2016 at 06:16pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Wait till you see the whites of its eyes or the levitation of the platter yourself.Oh and I almost forgot...listen to how it sounds.
geoffkait Details Discussions Posts This discussion 23,365 posts 10-14-2016 at 06:19pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete brucegel OP 144 posts 10-14-2016 2:16pm Wait till you see the whites of its eyes or the levitation of the platter yourself.Oh and I almost forgot...listen to how it sounds. Compared to what?
brucegel OP Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 151 posts 10-14-2016 at 06:23pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Geoffkait is correct.But this may be a hurdle less high to jump than previous designs.The question is how serious are they in perfecting this concept.Do they have the engineering chops to do it right.
geoffkait Details Discussions Posts This discussion 23,365 posts 10-14-2016 at 07:40pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete brucegel OP 145 posts 10-14-2016 2:23pm Geoffkait is correct.But this may be a hurdle less high to jump than previous designs.The question is how serious are they in perfecting this concept.Do they have the engineering chops to do it right. audiophiles have had mag lev devices for twenty years. It’s not really a question of engineering chops. It’s that mag lev has insurmountable problems that makes it uncompetitive with better approaches. LIGO does not use mag lev for any of it’s isolation stages. And they know their isolation. Therefore, I’m out. Looking on the positive side, magnetic sensors are used effectively for active isolation servo mechanisms.
stevecham Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 3,340 posts 10-15-2016 at 04:37am Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete And do all this in a light tight and evacuated enclosure with no air, after all, microturbulences and micro temperature fluctuations will impact speed precision.
emailists Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 923 posts 10-15-2016 at 12:51pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete Funny,. I was just reading this desciption of the top VPI table, which included this ... "The bottom bearing is an oil bath, the PEEK thrust disc on the bottom bearing takes the full 30 pounds total of both platters. We tried levitating the drive platter with opposing ring magnets for less wear but the low end deteriorated as you took off weight. Sorry other table makers, get a set of JBL Everest's and you will hear it too!! Bass requires a good solid footing."
bcowen Details Discussions Posts This discussion Message User 68 posts 10-15-2016 at 02:08pm Copy Comment URL Report Comment Edit Delete I wonder how they keep the magnetic field that levitates the platter from interfering with the magnetic field in the cartridge?

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