Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

I’m pretty sure he has not said he knows everything. He is passionate about what he does and I do see indications in his reviews that he seems to be aware of what he knows and what he does not know which is very important and is not afraid to call out others on that one.

Just calling it as I see it.  I have no cards in this game. 

It’s a fair question to ask Amir what he has learned of value from this thread?

@kevn there is only one way to find shortcuts when comparing products. That is of course to do the homework and understand what the differences really are. That ‘s what measurements provide. In a simple case analogy it’s how you decide what pair of pants will fit. You look at the size indicated which is determined by measurements. The difference with good sound is it is of course much harder to properly assess the measurements. Some can and some cannot. That’s where recommendations from someone who you trust come in. You either trust them or not. That’s your choice.

So thankfully it is not just a total crap shoot. You can obtain info that helps including auditioning yourself and specs or measurements.

Now if you have yet another paradigm that is not merely theoretical but can be practically applied then you are on to something. I wish you luck! A better understanding of em fields can’t hurt as long as the understanding is based on facts and not marketing propoganda or hearsay.

@anome I say test that sucker for that asking price but there are surely a few audiophiles out there just looking for the next great toy that don’t care if it works as advertised.

Ironically for most any common household item or even a car they might care. Toys are toys. Some adult toys just cost a lot of money for rights of ownership.

@thyname I respect and see value in what he does that’s all.  Call it what you will.  He seems competent in what he does and is no more egotistical than many talented engineers I have worked with over the years.  So he does not bother me.  yMMv. 

@thyname  I did say auditioning provides useful information as well so it appears you are selectively quoting to make your case.  Do you work in the media?  😉

Ok @thyname you are free to try on pants without considering sizes. I’m sure it all turns out well in the end. 😉. See what I did there?

@nonoise 

My point is many espouse personal freedom but only for themselves.  
 

Also it’s not a good thing when science  becomes the enemy.  
 

So what we have is people standing up for individual choice and saying I don’t care about measurements, I’ll do it my way. Ok fine! That’s how it should be.

But then you have a guy who tries to scientifically measure things and that’s his way. He also has a website to publish the info and many choose to value that because they value science.

But now the guy who chooses science is chastised for doing it his way He can do more than most anyone in this area and collect technical data that can help people make decisions but the “libertarians” can’t handle THAT guy deciding for himself how to do things because they don’t like the way he does things. His different view especially if based on science makes him the enemy

This is a common phenomena that we witness everyday on the internet, talk shows etc. people expect the right for themselves to be free and do it their way but not the people they disagree with. That’s being a hypocrite with a capital H .

The fact is many who want freedom for themselves can’t handle when others who are different want the same freedom. They think they are right and other guy wrong so he becomes the enemy and must be stopped.

Take note. Hypocritical libertarians vilifying others with different values are everywhere. Politicians know this and take full advantage.

Just saying. Just having different values on how to value hifi gear is enough to get people triggered

Yes Amir believes in his way and tries to convince others he is right. But I don’t see any name calling, back handed personal insults or other personal slurs coming from him . Yes he thinks he is right and tries to validate his stance. Nothing wrong with that . You can also argue an eye for an eye, but the personal attacks appear to be one way. The unhappy libertarians attack armed with slurs, insults and no regard for misinformation.

It’s so sad and petty. Grow up people. We can all do better. Maybe be a true libertarian who value the freedom of all decent hard working people, not just themselves. Narcissism seems to come into play here and that is always bad for everyone else in the end.

Do you really “Know Your Enemy”? When the enemy is science we have a big big problem.

@mahgister

Every body has a brain. Some are unfortunate and may have medical conditions. That”s not their fault. Others have a brain and value learning. Others do not. One’s values help determine how and what is learned. Amir is laser tuned on scientific measurements. You on philosophy, embedding and now psycho acoustics and how that affects what one hears. It’s all good. The point is you and Amir both WANT to learn and you each have your way. Good. Yay! Bravo! Do your thing!

The problem is some have perfectly good brains but have been conditioned to devalue learning including in science and other fields . All the while reaping the benefits of what other smart people learned and they didn’t . Think about it! Learning is a core value in some cultures In others increasingly learning is the enemy! We all are human and have our biases and limitations. Some learn to learn and others fight it tooth and nail and want to rely on “instincts” only. I respect that As long as one is not trying to obstruct others from doing their thing their way however that may add value.

End schpiell….

That’s all.

@mahgister I didn’t say you were anti science. Why did you infer that?

Also of course I know here is more to it than a handful of electrical metrics.

I am saying that it’s not a competition with a winner and a loser. You can do things your way and Amir his and others will each judge the value of the science presented. That’s how science works.

@mahgister no problem.   So much talk here who can properly synthesize it all?  So far I’d say nobody.  Who has the time?

Anyhow in conclusion, no I don’t think Amir has changed my mind about anything. I have found useful information on his site that will help my decision making when buying though and look forward to what all he might review in the future. He is a reviewing machine for sure. The metrics say he produces more reviews faster than most anyone else and I respect that as long as the quality does not take a back seat..

As Amir pointed out above he gives his recommendation based on the review because people asked him to.

Also I am not a member and have not tried but as he indicated readers appear to be able to vote on each review to let their opinion be known. 

Maybe the site was more dictatorial in the past but does not appear to be  currently. 

Do people even bother to determine the facts about anything anymore before casting stones?

Over and out.  

I learned that some people think distortion is overrated. 

Legend has it Medusa wasn’t so bad when you added some distortion.

Furthermore in more recent times, detail-obscuring low pass filters are used all the time to take that edge off extremely beautiful female models.

I’ve seen some AI generated beauties and I strongly suspect some serious distortion might have been tossed in there just to keep people in suspense. 

It’s really getting out of control.