Denefrips Pontus "burn in" period?


Hello all

 

Now there's a chance I may be a little premature with this, but I've received my Pontus 8 days ago and have had it running ever since, powered up, most of the time with signal going through it, and so far I'm a little concerned. I am aware that with this particular dac it is recommended to run it roughly 10 days before it really burns in, but being only a couple of days away, I can't say the sound has changed very noticeably. Matter of fact, when I A/B with my project S2 plus dac, and even my blue sound node internal deck, I can barely tell a difference! Does burning happen gradually? Is there all of a sudden a hallelujah moment where this thing starts kicking ass? Does anybody have more experience with this particular piece of gear? Current system is rogue audio ST100 amp, rogadio RP1 preamp, upgraded tubes, blue jean cabling, upgraded power cords on power amp and preamp. I had high hopes that this dac that has received so much high praise was going to blow my meager dacs out of the water, and so far not the case at all. I must say, the thing weighs a ton and looks gorgeous, but I'm getting a little concerned at this point that I may end up disappointed. Talk me off the ledge!

 

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Showing 6 responses by jjss49

op did not mention his speakers - he may well not have a system resolving enough to hear a meaningful difference

the pontus is very good, especially in terms of portraying an expansive soundstage and excellent tonality notable in its warmth and body -- though treble may have a touch of grain, even with an excellent source signal

Running Tannoy XT8F’s

not sure whether these will easily show the performance difference that a pontus will bring over a pro-ject dac, but i would think so

the pontus also has various settings... should use os without filtering for clearest most balanced sound... pontus gets murkier in nos mode

pontus also benefits from a cleaner bit-stream signal... gaia ddc or other similar purifier can help the dac perform at its best - it is also known that the pontus does not play particularly well with b-s node digital output - you may connect with alvin to understand the details

the pontus also has various settings... should use os without filtering for clearest most balanced sound... pontus gets murkier in nos mode

typed that one a little too fast...

what i meant was to use the ’least’ filtering while in oversampling... what they call ’slow’ os filtering -- op, see link for details...

https://www.denafrips.com/single-post/2020/03/12/pontusvenus-dac-configuration

 

Alvin actually stated it was the Aries II that has a compatibility issue with the Node coax input.

this is the case with all denafrips dacs and ddc's... the node coax digital output voltage is lower than most other streamers and the denafrips units have trouble receiving - i personally confirmed this with alvin - he actually told me to use optical instead ... 👎

dena gear was the only gear that i ever had this problem with using the node as streaming source... and since 2020 i must have been through 50 dacs, no exaggeration...

 
see below... his reply to my inquiry about my pontus not playing hi res (above redbook) streamed content from qobuz and tidal via node/node 2i
 
For hi-res, Node2i and Pontus Coax may not be compatible due to lower output VPP on the Node2i Coax output.
 
At hi-res, the data rate is much faster, hence, the signal may not be able to decode by the Pontus DAC. Would you please try the OPT connection instead?.

 

Many thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Alvin Chee

VINSHINE AUDIO PTE. LTD. (SINGAPORE)

@jin78 How long is your Coax cable? According to the "tech"
experts here, it should be at least 2 feet long. Some else can
explain the technical details.

it is commonly understood and accepted that the best length for digital coax 75 ohm spdif cable is great than 1.25m, ideally 1.5m - shorter creates potential for unwanted ’reflections’ in the cable given the wavelength of transported waveforms that may confuse the receiver

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm