Denafrips Pontus *15th* ?

Just ordered a Pontus 15 with a Hermes.

I have been eye balling the Laiv, but in the last two weeks there have been several popping up on the used market & I fully expect that to continue.

Hi guys,

It’s been almost 5 months since receiving my Pontus 15th and started this thread. Initially I was caught up in the confusion re: Denefrips/Vinshine confusion at the time, but nearly 5 months living with the Pontus, coupled with the Iris DDC, just wanted to express how happy the Pontus makes me.

For reference, when I first received it, it was feeding my Marantz Model 30, but not long after I bit the bullet and tried tubes for the first time with the Heaven 11 Billie mkii.

The Marantz combo was lovely, the Pontus was a big step up from the Ares 12th-1 I had, but the addition of the Billie was revaltory for me, being a tube virgin.

The partnership of Pontus and Billie is just marvelous to me, to the point I found I wasn’t visiting audio forums, or looking at components as potential swaps or upgrades, I was just listening 

I won’t go into hyperbole, I’m rubbish at describing how my system sounds, but as things stand I’m one happy camper.

Despite all the confusion and uncertainty around Denafrips and Vinshine that existed when this thread started, I hope everyone who bought a Pontus 15th are not disappointed; to me, it’s the best piece of kit I think I’ve owned.

Thanks guys, and happy listening 🍻

I am selling Denafrips Since Alvin left on his on venture.

i went into detail on the upgrades ,I told them have 4 decades in Audio that only upgrades 

when substantial , they agreed, the Pontus15 is actually last  years Venus12th,

land the Terminstor-15 is the Terminator+ , just cross reference them..

a New bigger better Venus 15 will be out in a Bigger case ,in Nov 

but no Terminator + 15. Meaning the Pontus 15  is a Great deal, as well as the New Terminator 15. Just go to the website and look at the parts the white Evox capacitors which are 4x as much $$, plus .005 resistor tolerances vs the 12th, .001, and bigger 80va transformers and several other bonuses in the Venus.

the Terminator.15 very easy , it now says Flagship and the dual shielded oven clocks 

say right on them Terminator  Plus , from a cost engineering stand point made perfect sense. The Enyo,Ares, and Venus  were redesigned in the 15 th.  This keeps everything up to date ,the DDC  nothing to upgrade here at the moment.

I bought the Iris 12 from audioman58 (audiophile58 on USAudiomart) and I had no issues and he was very helpful since I had no prior experiences with Denafrips or using a DDC. He also is providing a discount from the list prices (I believe). I have no connection with audioman58 nor any financial interest in his commercial enterprise other than being a one time customer. I'm just sharing this because of the concerns expressed above at the loss of Vineshine as a seller for Denafrips.

I got the Iris because (1) there were posts recommending a USB Bridge/reclocker in between the DAC and computer and (2) I had a promotional $500 gift card from a recent satellite provider switch so it essentially didn't cost me anything. 

Last week, I went to a fellow audiophile's home to listen to his speakers and he was using a cheap DAC off of Amazon and was apparently trying out a few of them along with someone else to see if they were all that was needed. He told me that he had an early Ares as well and I asked him to put it into the system because I had never heard any of the Denafrips' DACs. Once he plugged it in, the separation, sound stage and tonal quality of the music improved by a factor (IMO) by about 3 times and the effect was immediate. 

I'm considering changing my DAC because the Iris gives the opportunity to connect to a DAC with i2s. The Pontus 15th is one I'm considering.