dCS Bartok Apex vs McIntosh DA2 - Trouble Hearing the Difference


I am currently playing a new set of Focal Scala Evos with a McIntosh MA9500, fed by a Wiim Pro playing Tidal Direct. This set up uses the McIntosh DA2, which sounds remarkable to my untrained ears. 

I borrowed a dCS Bartok Apex from my local dealer. Given that I can run balanced out (using Transparent Reference Gen 6 cables) to the MA9500, I can switch inputs to compare the DA2 & Wiim vs the Bartok (DAC & Streaming) very quickly. I level matched the best I could.

What I am confused about, though, is just how close the DA2 sounds to the Bartok. The most noticeable difference is how forward and prevalent vocals are with the DA2. They seem anchored to the center image and several feet more forward into the room, whereas in the Bartok they are a bit more recessed, and integrated into the rest of the music. The Bartok soundstage is also wider, but not shockingly so. The sound is definitely smoother or "rounder" with the Bartok as compared to the DA2. 

I admit I am relatively new to critical listening, but I think I expected the difference between the $20K Bartok and the built-in DA2 to be more profound. I'm not anxious to spend the money on the Bartok, but am willing to do if it is a significant step up, which I think it should be. 

So what am I missing? Am I perhaps limited by the MA9500? My dealer doesn't love autoformer-based Mc products, but many do, so I would have thought the MA9500 is sufficiently resolving. Room acoustics are not the best, but certainly not terrible. 

Interested in any thoughts or feedback.

ripordaff

There is something wrong with your cables or not using the same cables exactly 

It s not even close McIntosh has Never done digital well Ever 

ams, preamps Yes .

Look at the $7400 T+A 200 dac that is pretty much the standard under $12k 

land personally think it sounds more natural then the Bartok Apex which I heard side by side ,Yes better the the Holo springs  May dac,,as well as Terminator+ 

and mola mola. That’s how good it is and even has a very good Analog resistive 

ladder preamp. The T+A200 dac is a Best Buy , check out the Many reviews 

then get  a dealer to send you one ,and you can get close to $1k off if you shop around ,and Has HQ player built into the architecture.

I agree the DA2 is incredibly good. I have a C53 and it took sonore optical streaming and Ayre qx5 to beat it

@mdalton 

 

I like HiFi News, but the typical issue contains pages of glossy dCS advertisements.  They also tend to give extra love to UK audio companies

I’m setting up my high end system this weekend and trying to get it to work w the furniture (ugh) in the room. I know not context of your string but your room looks so cool, that I thought I’d ask. 
 

Q what is distance between your Focal speakers and what is distance to where you sit?
 

Q Did you move either around or out of room for that set up?

 

Q Is it adventagous to not have furniture in corners?  I’ve got a chair in each for extra sitting. 
 

thx. 
 

tom Y